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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭green daries


    Obama has a lot to answer for regarding foreign policy for usa under his presidency. He really wasn't that great really in hindsight he probably was as America first as this genius but not as vocal about it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    Why all the focus on Obama, Trump and Biden? This is on Europe's eastern borders it's over 7000km from Washington DC.

    In pre 2022 EU trade was a quarter of a Trillion with Russia in spite of what happened in 2014. Up around 2 Trillion in that 14-22 period.

    Where's the critique of Merkel & Co enabling Putin's regime. Much diminished since but Europe still can't fully function without Russian gas. Putin is selling huge amounts of energy cheaply to China and India, that allows him to keep going while nowhere in Europe is prepared to do without his gas.

    It's increased between 23 & 24 in spite of reduced demand in Europe

    That dependency along with no European leadership is what's leaving Ukraine in the wind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,968 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    The USA gave certain assurances in the Budapest Memorandum. If it is to expect any credibility in any future international agreements it needs to honour its previous commitments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,167 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    The US doesn't need any credibility in future negotiations. It's at zero threat of being invaded by Canada, Mexico orea 3rd country.

    Europe and a lot of other regions can't say the same and need the US. Why does Europe need the US? Because we cheaped out on defense and made Russia more powerful through trade. Also the suicidal tactic of getting rid of nuclear power in Germany in favour of Russian energy reliance.

    Merkel is a traitor to Europe. Not to mention her immigration policy Which destabilised Europe politically and let to the rise of the far right.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,193 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    And Schroder before her. The German bank Schroder uses, has refused to handle the 6 monthly €200K payments he gets from Gazprom. So sad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭rogber


    The Ukrainians will not bow but they themselves have said over and again that they will lose the war without American and Western backing. It is inevitable that any peace now will involve sacrificing land then hopefully renegotiate in some post-Putin future.

    Trump managed to finally criticise Putin a little bit today (while still criticising Zelensky, FFS), will he follow it up with any meaningful action? I very much doubt it. He'll probably be back to blaming Ukraine tomorrow and every single day more innocent Ukrainians are dying. This just has to stop, the trauma among the population must be dangerously high already



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,968 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    The world is very interconnected - economically, politically, influence, intelligence, militarily.

    These interconnections all rely on negotiation and mutual agreement. Without credibility the USA's ability to further its international interests is diminished.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,193 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    There is a chance Ukraine might get a new toy. It's a mini 155mm missile that's fired from 155mm artillery. It's got a ramjet powered by almost any fuel you happen to have handy, like petrol or diesel.

    Defense technology company Tiberius Aerospace has publicly launched its first product, the Sceptre ramjet-powered artillery munition, marking its emergence from stealth mode after three years of development.

    The Sceptre (TRBM 155HG) is a 155mm extended-range precision-guided munition designed for use with existing NATO artillery platforms. The weapon utilizes ramjet propulsion technology to achieve speeds of Mach 3.5 and can reach altitudes exceeding 65,000 feet, according to the company.

    The munition offers several notable technical features compared to conventional artillery rounds:

    Range: Up to 150 kilometers depending on payload configuration (maximum warhead weight: 5.2kg)

    Accuracy: Circular error probability (CEP) of less than 5 meters,
    even in a GPS-denied environment

    Propulsion: Liquid-fueled ramjet engine compatible with diesel, JP-4, and JP-8 fuels

    Guidance: GPS and inertial navigation with AI-assisted error correction for operation in GPS-contested environments.

    https://defense-update.com/20250519_sceptre.html

    Sceptre Tiberius missile.jpg

    Analysts believe it may soon be sent to Ukraine. Thankfully, it appears to be a mostly British effort.

    I'm a bit dubious it can have enough charge to be useful, given the need for propellant sufficient to get it to 20km in altitude and 120km down range.

    Has anyone else noticed that Ukraine is seemingly getting very precise intelligence and targeting data? They keep Hammering C&C centres and factories that make militarily useful stuff, on a daily basis. Is this from their own and European efforts, or are the US back supplying it? I would think the latter unlikely given Krasnov. I hope it's the former.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,193 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Orcs:

    Untitled Image

    Just savages and barbarians like their Mongol forefathers.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,200 ✭✭✭jmreire


    You will find both Soloyuv, Simonyan and a host of likeminded die hard Putinistas on YouTube spouting absolute pro Russian anti-west bullcrap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,200 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Just wait Donnie, and see what big ugly fires that will have to be put out after you leave..if you leave, that is!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,866 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Field east


    re Obama’s actions when Putin was expanding his empire - eg invading Crimea- on a scale of 1 to 10 re support to Ukr , I’d give him 1. But when we take the current expansion of Russia into Ukr and Trumps involvement in it - and he is involved in it, I would give him - 5 ( YES minus five) . He is basically supporting Ru if only because of all of his pro Ru and anti VZ / Ukr utterances.

    So on the above Obama did more to ‘support ‘Ukr



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭EmergencyExit


    It's something i find incredibly frustrating in all honesty. The overall lack of leadership from Europe these last 10 years or so is very disheartening. As Europeans we seem in spend all our time and energy pointing and mocking Trump and Americans but yet here we are with a war in our backyard whilst we do the bare minimum to help.

    We should have been put on a wartime footing if not in 2014 then 100% in 2022, increased weapons production, (built factories if required), extra taxes to fund that instead we got European politicians like Merkel in Russia at the world cup in 2016 shaking Putin's hand AFTER he'd invaded Ukraine.

    Ireland should be off the fence and stop being the lagard of Europe. Forget about the Americans, it's time we grew up as a continent and looked after each other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,588 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    The mood music seems that there's an effort that Putin is superfluous to everything now. From within and outside in Russia.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the word tomorrow was he committed suicide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Field east


    Did Obama make the same decisions/statements as Trump Became president that would sooooooooo undermine world order re markets, international health, the bond market, aAmerica’s high standing internationally, radical change of ally relationships, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

    I Do’nt think so



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Field east


    US. Assurances are not worth the paper that they are written on. Why . ? The US and others were to GUARANTEE the sovereignty of Ukr if it gave up its nuclear deterrent- simple as. The US is now doing the opposite



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,167 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    If I was a selfish American I'd be happy with less international interests. America's role as world police costs them a fortune. The average American is poorer because of it. Like I said we need them.

    On another note Trump being told he's emotional is top tier trolling from the Kremlin. Trump being made look like a cry baby.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,362 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I have more the feeling that they are war profiteers and making money out of conflicts.

    Look at how Trump tried to squeeze money and deals out of Ukraine -and how it was decades before Britain paid back its loan from WW2.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,362 ✭✭✭amandstu


    "Funny" on one level but irredeemably sick on all important ones.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    America's role as world police costs them a fortune. The average American is poorer because of it. Like I said we need them.

    America wants (or at least wanted) that role and the overwhelming ability to progress their interests abroad that is brought them. The average American may well be a lot richer due to US global hegemony, they are certainly a lot richer due to the dollar's reserve currency status and that requires an element of backup by military force. Of course, a lot of that is at risk of being thrown away now.

    Nothing America has done over the last 80 years has been done as a favour to Europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,866 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,240 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    The US benefited massively by having all those countries join their new economic world order post world war 2.
    America is a much larger more powerful country today than it was in 1940. Infinitely more larger and powerful. But that is far too abstract a notion for trumpists and maga types to accept. In their world America was better back then before all those countries started taking advantage of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Looking at it slightly differently (and I don't disagree with your general point) - Europe has spent most of the last 500 years waging war - wars between neighbouring States, wars of conquest and colonisation and wars triggering/ encompassing half of/ most of the developed world. I genuinely think the EEC/ EC/ EU was and is a genuine attempt to foster peace through trade, development and movement of people and ideas. It's this that I think has pushed European nations to try and absorb as many States as possible into its orbit to snuff out the possibility of war on/ within its borders and to try and increase its collective voice on the world stage when it comes to the likes of the Middle East/ Far East.

    When you take a few steps back, this reticence to militarise and put boots on the ground is actually an extremely rare occurrence in European history - we just happen to be living through it.

    There's no doubting that over the past 10 years or so, technology, the shifting focus in the US and the growing threat posed by China means that the EU really needs to re-evaluate its strategies. I don't think traditional industry and commerce is strong enough anymore to underpin any EU efforts to influence geopolitics the way it used to. These days its all about high energy and breaking stuff, with fluid loyalties, Musk style.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭thomil


    Confirmed by German news station n-tv:

    https://www.n-tv.de/politik/15-40-Merz-Westen-hebt-Reichweitenbeschraenkung-fuer-Waffen-der-Ukraine-auf--article23143824.html

    Interestingly, the same station also reports that Merz wants to really tighten the thumbscrews on Hungary and Slovakia, hinting that he’d support a complete withdrawal of EU funds if it came to it, as well as other coercive measures allowed by EU treaties.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,167 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    No doubt wealthy Americans profiteer massively but not the average American. Weapon production and war is a massive waste of a countries resources.

    @Podge_irl and I wouldn't expect America to be doing us favours. Europe is a super rich region we shouldn't need handouts.

    I also don't support the idea of America ruling the world through influence. But I find it frustrating that they'd interfere so much in the middle east and when they've a chance to do right in Ukraine they don't. Even under Biden the support was only half arsed.

    But back to my point it's pathetic how Europe even needs America.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,384 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Screenshot_20250526_152515_Chrome.jpg Screenshot_20250526_152531_Chrome.jpg

    Sorry I couldn't attach the link.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,217 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    You do know the meaning of Superfluous right?

    Ie: unnessesrry

    I wish you were right but Putin sees himself as a God above everyone else in his country and most if the World. Urs demented.

    I don't see him committing suicide yet. Hitler only did it when he knew he could not win.

    Even if he did what or who comes to take charge after Putin is gone might be worse.

    I omky see Putin doing that wants he realises he can mit win which is very far away with Trumps Ametica mot coming down garden on him unfortunately. This war could gave been over months ago had Trump threatened to use the full force if the American military might against Putin. But no Trump is too obsessed with Putin to do that. I would go as far to say that Trump is afraid of Putin.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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