Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

I'm not Russian, why do you think so? Why would I want to move there, I've lived in Canada too, super country, far better than Ireland, still don't want to move there either.

Russian telling it as it is.

You've spent 10 years regurgitating Russian propaganda on this site, you claim to have lived in Russia, you claim to visit there every year - it's pretty unsurprising posters might believe you are Russian, not that it matters either way.

Some Irish people can be heavily indoctrinated with this stuff also, just look at Clare Daly or Mick Wallace.

Nope, not muddied. They had no right to invade Ukraine. This is why posters view you as a propagandist.

So you don't accept those regions asked for help?

I've stated though quite a few times my connection, so I've a perspective from that. However, alot of people won't have anything close to that and their perspective and opinions form from a different view, fine. So when those will say "I'm buying into the Russian propaganda" I'm not taking my information from news or Internet, I've seen first hand. Anyway, I've covered this multiple times here, don't want to repeat all this for pages every so often. We've different views, different opinions.

There have been bots and dodgy accounts on this site. Russia is engaged in a large information war and has been doing heavily since the mid 2010's, troll factories, etc.

Personally I don't think you are a bot, but when a poster comes in, and starts repeating those same tropes, then it's not uncommon to see links being made.

That's fine, however belief and indoctrination are powerful things. The main thing someone with a questionable belief does is to discount global journalism and news, why? Because it's going to contradict their narrative (not to be confused with normal criticism)

Likewise another is the addition of false "balance", the notion that there are two sides which are somehow equal

These are all red flags which add up

Enlighten me about that region please.

Honestly, I don't care a bit how you view my posts or what you believe about me, in fact your "beliefs" and my actual experience just leads me to laugh at your position

I'm not commenting on the war in that post you quoted.

It's a comment on the thread being a tribalist sh1t shoe. Posters calling out Putin propaganda is right and proper but repeated

*Conspiracy theories are high fives

*Some drivel about Trump having super powers due to tax legislation is left go unchallenged

*Another poster wanted two supreme court justice impeachments along other anti democratic changes in the USA.

*Rejoicing in deaths of ordinary soldiers (many of whom are conscripts including Ukrainian conscripts from invaded lands) is particularly distasteful but all good in this thread. But hey whatever gets you validation on social media is all good it seems

Trump should be called out for his madness and cronism but not calling out patent nonsense devalues any critique. It's not as if there isn't enough verified dirt on him.

As for the war EU needs to get serious about which it's doing Net zero or energy security; it can't do both. They've been dragging their heels for an age DESPITE Putin already being in Ukraine since 2014, with trade between Russia and EU being at 250 Billion annually in those years. They still have trade worth 65 Billion. USA trade is at 3.5B.

A rather inconvenient topic for the thread given the silence when it's brought up.

The only feasible way Putin leaves Ukraine is if economy collaspes, EU hasn't the where with all or ambition to go on the offensive in Ukraine. China and India have cheap energy currently they don't want war to end or Russia to collapse just yet.

USA under Trump and indeed under Biden have been really limited in their assistance. That's not going to get any better.

EU is only option to to force Putin to table but they won't and this war will rumble on as Putin and his cronies dont care about war deaths Ukrainian or their own.

Russia cannot afford to keep the pace of production with the additional costs of a fast burning out economy.

What has a referendum got to do with it ?