Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 14/08/25*

I know someone high up in People Ops in a large MNC.

They don't do permits unless they are for transfers from other offices or a genuinely niche role.

In more recent years they have actually taken to not hiring as many in Ireland as they have been able to open up new offices in Europe and hire there.

Ireland remains good to hire in though because they know the lay of the land on employment rules here and they find Germany / France etc. difficult to hire in.

They do hire a lot of EU nationals and also do tend to be more diverse in hiring (as a result of US corp rules), but don't get in the visa game. That would be their assessment of the tech firms generally.

I do know of larger firms who do it but I wouldn't call them MNCs as we typically view them who do transfer people over here at scale. I actually think a lot of very domestic firms do it under the auspicious of being a MNC.

Seems They will avoid a conviction ,because they are well educated,should lose their work visas IMo.

The list of "jobs the Irish won't do" has expanded quite a lot over the last few years.

I just love how the continuance of the race to the bottom, and the exploitation of the working poor, is now put forward as an eager justification of this madness.

Big shift? Don’t know what part of the country you live but Irish people continue to do these jobs.. what part of that is unbelievable? it has nothing to do with left centre or right wing governments who’s in or who isn’t. as i have said not everyone has a degree in fin tech… I have family that are cleaners. I have nephews who work in shops and supermarkets. you know like real people in the real world - they don’t sit there and say no way am I doing that job because it’s like so beneath me.

A lot of young students can't get these jobs as well.

It really sums up this government doesn't it

It's so **** frustrating and the madness of all this, it's just bewildering why are they constantly damaging our country.

Is there any function of this State operating in the interests of Irish natives anymore? It seems like our entire public service is now outsourced to cater for anyone that's not Irish with a special focus on non-EU citizens. Our entire public service needs urgent overhaul. When you see this carry on, you can wholly justify DOGE and realise how Ireland needs the exact same.

Show me one article by TheJournal which is factually incorrect.

A perfect example from poster InAtFullBack

This "news outlet" and I use that term very loosely is gutter garbage at it's finest

Caught lying through their teeth again to suit their agenda

If you are qualified person with a skill set which is in demand and can get you highly paid employment with an excellent benefits package — and perhaps a stint abroad with all the excitement and fun that comes with living in big cities or sunny climates — it's not that you "won't" work certain lower paid jobs, it's just that you will opt for the better paid job that offers the better experience and lifestyle.

We can call it exploitation of the poor in some cases, but it's also simply a symptom of a successful education system. It's effectively the price you pay for equipping your young people to grow into a skilled workforce — the more successfully you do that, the more your workforce will gravitate to the higher ends of the job market and avoid the lower ends.

The effect of this is magnified in a small island country like ours, where we have always had an emigration problem — only now it has changed in nature from being purely necessity driven to also in many cases (and perhaps even most) being driven by the pursuit of experience (both personal and professional).

With regard to the opposition. Look at every single year without fail a controversy springs up just before the Dáil summer recess. All old news by the time they arrive back and long forgotten. The same is likely playing out again although admittedly it's a little early as the recess is July. Committee assembly next, after terms of reference and whatever other nonsense can be dreamed up to not take a close look at the waste.

I feel we will never find out the true figures that this is costing us.

There is currently an open public consultation on the strategy for the Department of Justice. The questions are loaded as expected but the survey gives you the option to comment. It's worth filling it out as you get to put immigration etc to the front. It closes the 22nd

Public consultation on the development of the Department of Justice Statement of Strategy 2025 - 2028