Garda killed doing his job

That's amazing thanks. But guess what, your theory garbage makes no difference to reality. Moto GP riders and high level racers - who are the best riders in the world, crash while braking on race tracks (not even in an emergency stop). Roads have worse surfaces, gravel, horse ****, dirt etc. which makes it even more difficult. But continue to prove my point that cars owners haven't a breeze when it comes to bikes.

If you suddenly jam on the front brake on a non ABS bike on the road you have a high chance of crashing even at low speed, regardless of what theory you post.

Would this be a good time to mention the legal requirement for all road users to be able to stop within the distance they can see to be clear?

ah would you grow up. Shield has been around since forever. There’s not many who would question is legitimacy and I certainly wouldn’t.

He is mourning a fellow LEO who was killed on duty. He is also pleading with anyone who knows what happened to go and tell the Gardai.

Why this thread is being turned into questioning shield or a debate about motorcyclists capacity to brake in an emergency etc is beyond me.

A man has died. He’s left behind two children and a family. That’s all that matters now. These childish arguments about bikes and PSNI officers is just stupid and should stop.

Disturbing, but no surprise to see this thread descending into a debate/discussion/argument about motorcyle braking or the word 'accident'

The thread title is pretty clear on what should be the focus.

I'm on that stretch regularly in a car and on a bike. It's one of those stretches where people routinely speed after coming off the M1.

RIP to the Garda.

I'm a car driver, bus driver and occasionally a truck driver. I drive about 80,000 kmpa.

You're right - I haven't a "breeze" about riding bikes.

However I know an awful lot about road safety and use. Multiple courses and qualifications along with about 34 years of driving for a living experience.

Ive attended funerals of friends who died off bikes.

Neither the two cnuts who nearly killed me over the last couple of days nor the vast vast majority of bikers show ANY knowledge or understanding of what damage they are capable of when traveling at the speeds that (again) the VAST majority of them do in unsuitable conditions.

You've basically admitted that they can't stop yourself - why should the rest of us be subjected to heightened danger because a relatively small cohort want to use our roads as their own private race track?

In my youth people used bikes as cheap transport. That's not the case for (again) the vast majority of bikers today. It's a hobby and as such should be restricted to areas owned managed and insured by the hobbyists themselves.

I'm well aware this won't happen.

In that case - make some fcuking effort to at least half-observe road traffic law and speed limits.

Like most other road users.

What's your point?

You have a cohort of road users up to 28 times per km travelled more likely to die on the road than motorist who according to you can't emergency brake; what controls do you suggest?

Make abs compulsory perhaps?

Advanced driving courses being compulsory perhaps?

Slow the fcuk down if emergency braking is such a hazard?

Or should all other road users tip toe around so lads can go for a burn at weekends.

If one is so vulnerable to road debris, wet surfaces etc etc whatever control is there other than slow the fcuk down?

Do you really think a professional race driver braking from 200mph has any relevance to someone braking on an 80km/h public road?

Very sad for his family.

Can't wait for all the details of this incident to be released and all lessons learned to prevent this from happening again.

The roads are a dangerous place.

Complacency kills

Excessive speed and lack of concentration don't happen 'by accident'.

They happen because the rider or driver choose to speed and fail to concentrate.

Click bait at best: disrespectful to the deceased

A petrol station near where the garda was standing is believed to have clear images showing what happened. 

Do you think we will ever know the details of this sad event, I can't imagine a Garda would stand in harms way to halt a motor vehicle.

NO bike rider would deliberately hit a Guard, especially at speed, as it would almost certainly involve the rider getting seriously injured too, as happened in this case.

There will be an investigation, so maybe this thread should be more about the general issue of speeding, which has got worse in the past 10 years or so.