No quitten we're whelan onto chitchat 12.

Parents got "fibre to the home" yesterday. Gone from using the 50+ year old copper phone line to fibre. They can't get over how things are so much faster now or how they don't have to restrict themselves with videos on simultaneously via the tv or phone. Like if the father has GAA+ on, youtube or anything for the mother is a no go. The excitement must be how it was when the electricity first arrived. There'll be nothing done here today now

I think reference TAMS price is being reviewed ATM. Others may be more well versed in the matter.

Hmmm - the brutal colonial wars, land theft, slavery etc. against native peoples in Africa, Americas etc. were often justified as "Converting Pagans to Christianity"……

I'm not excusing the church for the long list of failings. What I was trying to say was that there was a lot of good things done too. But we are bombarded by lefty media, who hates anything catholic or irish.

Humans are well able to kill and commit violence, without the church being involved. Remember the church ran brilliant hospitals long go too. They gave the best education in the country. They were tough times, its hard to compare them to 2025

Large state collusion in 99% of cases but it was the church was the main driver and instigators usually.

@green daries the church didn't rape & take advantage of the young girls that ended up in places like Tuam. It's very easy to look back and blame all on an institution and not look at the failings that was in some of our own families.

Had more to do with pride and fear of what the neighbours might think.

I'm afraid the three of ye are correct in what ye say families neighbours and mothers of sons blaming the girls completely. fathers ashamed of pregnant daughters and all the stuff we look back on now as ridiculous but the state was the church and the church the state. It was very very different times and extremely difficult to go against the system. I said state collusion but maybe I should have said national collusion ( bar a few decent brave people )

Back in the 19th century under British rule unmarried pregnancies doesn't appear to have been such a big deal. Just look back at the baptismal registers and you'll be surprised at the amount of illegitimate births - the priests were good enough to note it 😐️

When Dev and John Charles got the reins of power things changed - two despicable individuals.

Try the Sunday Independent, I wouldn't be surprised if its the most popular paper in the country. They have a lot of Conservative and right wing columnists, even a regular from the Iona Institute. A lot of the tabloids are quite right wing too.

The Irish Times would be the mostly centrist to left but wouldn't have a large rural following.

Our local paper here is very right leaning.

Best of luck.

Up louth. Never in doubt...

@whelan2 congrats, hope Louth will forget about 2010 now…

Gutted not to have been there, rest of my siblings went. Great day.