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Joe Duffy leaving RTE

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,055 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I have to say that whether you always agree with what is said on Liveline or whether or not you like Joe Duffy, I think the national reach of the show is pretty important. In today's media, there's very little that seemingly everyone listens to or looks at and I think we're the worse for that.

    There's a thread on this very site that is dedicated to Liveline and it's filled with people who it's like they've never posted on another thread - the whole point of this site to them is just to post a snarky live commentary on what's going on on the show. Which is totally their right, but what other radio show gets that kind of traction.

    And there's plenty of elbows in ribs about Joe Duffy's way of talking, i.e. "Oh, dat does be derrible, Mairead…", but that's because his way of speaking is so distinctive, for all its faults. Katie Hannon wouldn't have that, or Phillip Boucher Hayes. They just sound standard. Even the voiceover at the start wouldn't have the same gravitas if it went, "Talk to Phillip…" or some old weapon at a shop telling the cashier that, "I'm going to call Phillip Boucher Hayes on ya!"

    So while it's probably time for JD to retire, my point is that I hope the show continues to be a cultural touchstone for the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,474 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,482 ✭✭✭Raichų


    ah in fairness the way he speaks is just how he speaks right? He’s never attempted (to his credit) to masquerade as something he wasn’t with a pretend D4 accent or using his best “telephone voice” on radio.

    Not going to roll over and cry myself to sleep that he’s leaving the show but I certainly don’t understand the hate for him here! You’d swear he’s kicked someone’s Nan onto the Luas track.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,482 ✭✭✭Raichų


    but to be fair- what’s he made RTE?

    If the salary is a fraction of what he brings in with regards revenue from his show and advertising then it’s not a scandal!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,055 ✭✭✭✭briany


    People don't like the wages he's on, for one.

    It's definitely a lot of money for the supposed hours he puts in, by anyone's estimation, but he could defend that by pointing out what Liveline makes RTE per year in ad revenue.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,042 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Not really how it works. Getting listeners is part of the job description I'd have thought.

    Plus radio 1 listeners are the type that buy a radio,tune into radio 1 and rip the knob off. Has Tubs replacement lost any listeners? Bet Joe's doesn't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    it’s a crime against society that he was getting 350k a year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,042 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    That's for an hour and fifteen minutes show. A days work basically and don't tell me he has to do research to chat to Sinead from Limerick when she gives out about her neighbours dog or something.

    Newstalk presenters do a three hour show mostly and I'll bet they're on nothing like 350,000.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,839 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    He talks to Louise Duffy at 12.45 to tell her whats coming up at 1.45. Which might suggest he has just been in an editorial meeting until then and they have nailed down what they will be talking about that day. However, 50% of the time, what he told Louise was going to be on doesn't get a mention and he goes off on some other tangent, so I reckon he arrives in at about 12.30, rhymes off what might be on to Louise, has a browse on his iPad, reads some emails and if something else interests him, gets a researcher to ring someone connected to it and goes from there.

    So 12.30 to 3pm? 2.5 hours work total?

    Meanwhile Pat Kenny works on air from 9am to 12, and is always fully briefed on whatever topic is coming up and whenever a guest has a book, he has clearly read the book because he refers to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    No, and I bet she is not on half the pay and pension that Joe is on?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    Who's the likely replacement?

    I've read that it's Zamparelli, and she's being lined up.

    Next best I've heard, Callan..

    But he's not interested in taking it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,839 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    As I keep saying, whoever takes over needs to make it their own. Callan has made his 9am slot his own. Liveline with Joe is a very different programme to when Marion Finucane was at the helm. It's not going to be the same programme - or I should say, if they try to make it the same program with the new person, it will die a death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,839 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I really don't think so. The reason his slot is so popular is because most people tune in for the 1pm news and leave the radio on.

    A bit like how I only listen to Andrea Gilligan because she comes on straight after Pat Kenny. I usually last about 20 minutes and then switch over to Louise Duffy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,482 ✭✭✭Raichų




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,042 ✭✭✭✭kneemos




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,920 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    For a show about people getting ripped off.

    It was like some sort of big nationwide meta joke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,042 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Pat Kenny a top drawer broadcaster is rumoured to be on 400,000 for a three hour show daily. Nearly a million when he left RTE.

    There's an obvious descripency there if Joe is nearly on as much. RTE just throw it about like confetti.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    WoWould the same people.talk to zamparelli if she got it.

    I didn't listen to it ever but it strikes me that it takes a particular type to do a show like that and most presenters today seem to love the sound of their own voices and have no interest in anything themselves and that will come across.

    II'm not Saying Joe didn't like his but I get the impression people who do listen to the show that he seens able to actually listen and be interested sometimes.

    ThThe Time is coming when rte will gave to admit the gravy train has run its course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,839 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    II'm not Saying Joe didn't like his but I get the impression people who do listen to the show that he seens able to actually listen and be interested sometimes.

    No, he never listens. Often asking the same question to callers because he wasn't listening the first time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,767 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Any chance we'll have Joe for President?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,802 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Doubtful... he'd get paid more by the hour even on a reduced contract with RTE. Cant imagine him handling the schedule, travel.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    You are surely joking.

    President role requires somebody of a certain class and decorum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,357 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    This lad to replace Joe ??

    https://youtu.be/FOJB26Dco4g?si=Kl_lKXhlpqEbULC9



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,357 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    It would be difficult to find a replacement as unengaging and lacking in charisma as Duffy was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    Joe Duffy does not deserve to be paid 350k p.a. of public money. Another shocking waste that the tax payer pays for. Good riddance to him, and hopefully a few more on these outlandish salaries are forced out too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,482 ✭✭✭Raichų


    he’s not paid from public money, so that’s a non issue
    so you wouldn’t take his job and salary if you were offered? Of course you would. Jealousy. Countries full of it.

    There’s TD’s on similar money and that is all public money. RTE is funded by licence fees to fulfil their public service obligations and little else. They don’t use it to pay staff. You know that already I am sure, but don’t let me stop you in your faux outrage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    He is paid from public money, RTÉ ran losses over the years, while had to sell public land, and write down at least 7m euro.

    His TV show in particular is possibly loss making.

    On top of this you can make the argument that RTÉ is a public body and any money it raises commercially is our money.

    If he felt he wanted more money he should have moved to the UK or US and allowed another person to take on his role in RTÉ long ago.

    We can see this from all of the so called talent in RTÉ, not one of their shows lost an audience when they left their roles.

    The only one that you could possibly argue the case for is Jerry Ryan but honestly I think his show would be in the doll drums at this point.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,482 ✭✭✭Raichų


    so if you were offered his salary and his hours would you take it or refuse based on how morally reprehensible it is?

    You’d take the money. Anyone would. He did nothing wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    That has absolutely nothing got to do with whether it is money well spent or not. It's a joke that he was on over 300k. Nobody in RTE shluld be anywhere near that, and if they feel they should be, let them go into the private workforce and earn it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I have no problem with him accepting the salary, I have a problem with him being offered the salary. RTÉ were not strong enough to say no to many of their "talents" demands. So much so that now we have an issue were RTÉ are facing into a question of who is a suitable replacement, because they never developed anyone over the last 25 years and who replaces Patrick Kilty should he decide not to renew his contract as again they developed noone to replace him, and this is proven by the fact that of all the people the choose to replace RT it was someone with a long career abroad.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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