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What is causing the rise in the price of meat and dairy?

  • 09-05-2025 08:16PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭


    Connaght gold €4.50 in Tesco, a shoulder of Lamb, think it was €15 last year, they were €3.40 and €10.

    Where does inflation come from?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,130 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Feed and fertiliser costs have increased hugely in the past couple of years, as have other costs in the production process.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,850 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Input costs, production costs, transport costs, then the operators at each step of the process will add a profit margin all adding to the final cost of a product.

    For farmers, input costs have risen hugely since 2020, fertilisers, nitrates and feedstuff have jumped hugely since then. Theres also the impact of demand, more people, companies and markets are chasing a still quite restricted output across agricultural and food producers.

    Producers are taking advantage and raising prices on that front accordingly too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭littlefeet


    They are massive price rises in only one year. The prices are not just rising; they are multiples of last year's levels.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,485 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    food inflation has been massive for several years now. the war in ukraine was a major factor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭baxterooneydoody


    Oil and gas and the price of it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭Archduke Franz Ferdinand


    seriously? Do you need to ask… consider the massive increase in costs that farmers are faced with, easy to understand



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭littlefeet


    Since he retired, my husband does the shopping, so got the shock of my life when I did the shopping.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,130 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    It's not in a single year but the rate of increase in meat has risen more recently as it takes some time for increases to growers and processers to work their way through the system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭Jizique


    oil down over prety much any period you look at, this is down to govt efforts to reduce herd sizes so less supply and higher demand as people realise more protein is key for health so basically it comes down to govt (including EU) decisions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭geographica


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/farming/arid-41592004.html#:~:text=Bord%20Bia%20estimated%20the%20UK,€1.3bn%20of%20beef.&text=Much%20of%20the%20rise%20in,last%20three%20months%20of%202024.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 EmergencyExit


    It's out of control now without a doubt. We've cut back massively on stuff we don't need, done meal plans, reduced the quality of the food we eat and yet we are still paying more than this time last year. I've noticed shrinking size of products also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭Jizique


    Govts need to relax relax restrictions on farmers and allow increased herd sizes, if people want to go vegan or plant based or whatever all we'll and good but we should not be forced in this unhealthy direction. This will only get worse unless we change course



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 EmergencyExit


    I've absolutely no interest in vegan, organic or any of that stuff. I just want to to be able to feed my family without breaking the bank. I am also worried about the quality of food we are eating now, we eat a lot of veg and iv'e noticed the quality of that is also getting worse along with meat and dairy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,298 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    The forces of supply and demand set prices.

    Supply is affected by input costs, regulations, and lots of other factors.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,739 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I have heard Matt Cooper talk about this for 2 days running now. 1st with Charlie Weston and today with some guy who was a farming reporter I think.

    In neither discussion was the question asked, "so who is making all the profit".

    I'd love to know. Farmers are always crying they are being underpaid for their produce. So is it the supermarkets? Or the processors? Or are the farmers actually raking it in and saying nowt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,130 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    The profits go all over the place and not to a specific portion of the process. Energy companies, feed manufacturers, fertilizer manufacturers, fuel suppliers, processing plants, etc.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,485 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    And it's worth mentioning too that the true price of that leg of lamb is distorted by subsidies.

    We pay sheep farmers in Ireland to lose money. If it wasn't for subsidies, most would simply go out of business. IIRC (subject to confirmation) the average income of a hill sheep farmer is about €13k but they receive subsidies of about €15k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭testtech05


    I heard some of that piece about farming etc too. I think they mentioned the average income/profit for the farmer per year was something tiny like 15k I know there would be outliers making a lot more than the average but it didn't sound like the farmers in general were raking in the profits



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Factories and Supermarkets - Farmers are only getting 48c - 50c a litre and that depends on where they are , and they are getting squeezed further.

    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/milk-price-tracker-majority-of-co-ops-drop-price-for-march/

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,756 ✭✭✭893bet


    Think of the average chicken that cost 6 quid.

    Supermarket holds it less than 2 days. And has approx 2 euro per head at an estimation gross profit.

    Farmer hold them 6 weeks and has to feed them and unlikely has 1 euro per head.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,756 ✭✭✭893bet


    That lady is a month shy of 30 month. 30 months nursing her from calf to beef. Farmer adds value to her every day.

    Supermarkets and processors add value for a single day and take way way more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,038 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    probably worth a read….

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inflation-Guide-Losers-Mark-Blyth/dp/132410614X

    or you could just go see him chat about it….

    https://dalkeybookfestival.ticketsolve.com/ticketbooth/shows/873671815

    https://dalkeybookfestival.ticketsolve.com/ticketbooth/shows/873671810

    https://dalkeybookfestival.ticketsolve.com/ticketbooth/shows/873672250

    oh, and also worth a listen….

    https://podtail.com/podcast/the-david-mcwilliams-podcast/inflation-for-losers-with-mark-blyth/

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,161 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Mercosur will help bring the prices down in time and offer cheaper food options for people, without removing irish beef/dairy from the shelves.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,485 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    How much meat do Irish people consume where they don't know the origin? It's really only when you're buying raw meat in a butcher or a shop that you get controlled info about the origin.



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