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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,781 ✭✭✭yagan


    Seems to be a major strategic bombing offensive on Crimea by Ukraine in the last two days. Softening it up for a possible ground force push. If they can take out the southern Russian flank then the east will fold quickly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭Field east


    why go back into history - and what back to the first world way- to make a point . Like ‘ in 1915 look what A did to B so it is OK NOW for B to do the same/similar thing to A . Why stop at what was done in 1915. Why not go back to the time of the Ottoman Empire , the Roman Empire, the Mogul period and say what X did to Y therefor it should NOW be acceptable for Y to do the same /similar/similar but worse thing to x.

    Will we ever learn? Society, cultures have MOVED ON. Society has become more cultured , more nuanced, more educated , more ‘fair’, found better ways of living in peace, have found mechanisms to solve problems/issues in a peaceful way, etc, etc, etc.

    BUT NO, some countries/ individuals MUST cherry pick form past events to influence their current actions

    ‘Two wrongs do not make a right ‘ as the saying goes

    And just because something was ‘right to do’ decades/ centuaries ago does not mean that it would be right to do it now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭poop emoji


    Scroll back few pages, it all started with friends of Putin doing the usual “whataboutism X in the time Y”

    Mirroring Putin and his “it all started in the 9th century” nonsense

    It’s important to keep reminding Russians and their sick sick admirers that some of the most barbaric and tragic parts of their history such as Holodomor and Alliance with Hitler was airbrushed out of their history

    Just like they are already trying to disappear and whitewash attrocities in this war or making likes of Stalin as some sort of a hero



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    We can dream, but pie in the sky stuff really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Realistically, the AFU would need to sever the Russian land-bridge to Crimea and have solid control of the Azov coast before an attempt on Crimea.

    Now, it’s pretty unlikely to get to that stage anytime this year, or very soon, but if everything goes right for Ukraine and they are kept in the fight long enough then it’s not impossible. I feel that a prerequisite to trying for Crimea would be retaking most / all of the Donbass and securing their frontier with Russia there.

    However, the problem with that approach is that the Russians would then refocus themselves on fortifying Crimea. If by some turn of incredible luck the AFU could push to the Azov coast now, then they would face a poorly fortified Crimean Plateau that would give the AFU the advantage with modern armor and aircover. In that case, with the exception of the major cites, the AFU could likely cut off the Russia supply lines on the east of the peninsula and starve the remaining defenders of ammo.

    But the Russians would need an incredible collapse along the front for this to happen. It’s not impossible, but at the moment it’s very unlikely.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,450 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I forget which poster often brought this up (Maybe Wibbs?), but their point was to «follow the money» to determine who would come out on top in this conflict, and following the money in this war only ever seemed to bring you to Ukriane.

    Win, lose or draw; Russia have screwed themselves over royaly for engaging in Putin’s war of personal relevancy. Russia is a bad investment now. The war economy is built on a ginantic house of cards, where many of the cards might not even exist. Their consumer base is being literally destroyed by a conflict, and the infrastructure they needed to export raw materials & energy (a major pre-war reason to invest in Russia) is being progressively blown to bits.

    Any part of land that falls within «Forever Russia» after this confict, is going to find itself hopelessly poor, and hopelessly powerless to improve their lot in the world. All thanks to Uncle Vlad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    "Its economy is smaller than that of Chile…"

    Oooof.

    Nope, Russian cannot be defeated. Not a hope. NYET!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,450 ✭✭✭zv2


    Also the underground infrastructure is decaying all over Russia. More so, there's not enough manpower or money to fix it. Even if the war ends today they've got a huge problem with this. Here's a microcosm of the situation.

    They Bought Premium Housing Outside Moscow. They Still Can't Escape Russia's Decaying Infrastructure. - The Moscow Times

    Quote:

    Officials acknowledge that the wear and tear on sewage treatment facilities, many of which were built in the 1960s and 1970s, is a chronic problem for most of Russia’s regions, many of which lack the funds to replace them.

    While the number of sewage-related accidents in Russia has fallen in recent years, the total length of pipes needing replacement is on the rise and currently stands at 38,600 kilometers — nearly the length of the Equator.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,775 ✭✭✭✭josip


    What is it about sanitation that Russia struggles with?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69



    Nobody knows what to believe in anymore, nothing is real…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,443 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


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    Wonder if anything happens

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    how is putins "cease" fire going so far…?


    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…

    yo! donnie vonshitzinpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭Steviemak7


    Nice read. It really sums up the precarious situation the Russians are in. Ukraine just needs to keep holding them off until the eventual collapse



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭Steviemak7


    That Adam Curtis doc is over 8 years old. The Trump shape shifting has moved on to unimaginable levels now. It's amazing how he's fully followed the Putin model and so many people have just followed him blindly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,810 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Ukraine should ignore Putins ceasefire. Stop letting him set the agenda just because he knows Trump supports Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,602 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga



    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…

    yo! donnie vonshitzinpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,450 ✭✭✭zv2


    A lot of stuff was built at the same time in the Soviet era so it is now disintegrating at the same time everywhere.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,052 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Germany published on Wednesday the contents of a new military aid package for Ukraine.

    Germany's contribution remains substantial. Thus, the new tranche of military aid includes, for example, 66 armored vehicles with mine protection or three Zuzana 2 howitzers.

    Also, the security assistance package for Ukraine also includes missiles for IRIS-T air defense systems, an unspecified amount of ammunition for Leopard-2 tanks, about 40 thousand shells for Gepard guns, 27 thousand artillery shells of 155 mm caliber, 1,000 artillery shells of 122 mm caliber, 70 VECTOR reconnaissance drones and spare parts for them, 150 HF-1 drones, 20 ground drones or six Bergepanzer-2 armored evacuation vehicles and spare parts for them, reports the UNIAN agency.

    This is the first military aid package for Ukraine announced after the new German Chancellor, Friedrich Merz, took office. He has long publicly supported the position that Germany should also supply Ukraine with Taurus cruise missiles. His predecessor, Olaf Scholz, was reluctant to deliver them.

    At the same time, the new German Chancellor Friedrich Merz reiterated his promise on Wednesday to supply Ukraine with Taurus missiles.

    Taurus, hence the significant focus on Crimean air defence systems lately, and for months prior.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,052 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Yes, they should, but apparently some units got orders to stop assaults.

    Despite the "ceremonial" truce announced by the Putin regime for the Victory Day in World War II, since the beginning of the day on May 8, Russian troops have hit the territory of the Sumy region with about a hundred guided aerial bombs.

    Source: Colonel Yurii Ihnat, Head of the Communications Department of the Air Force Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, on the air of the national telethon

    Quote: "I think the messages that have been there since the night have given clear answers to the whole world about how Russia adheres to the truce, which it itself unilaterally announced... Putin's so-called "ceremonial truce" began with the fact that after zero hours, the enemy's tactical aircraft simply bombed the Sumy region virtually non-stop...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,604 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    "about 40 thousand shells for Gepard guns"

    Good on Germany for providing all the above mentioned, but this is just kinda funny. Thats about 80 seconds worth of ammunition per Gepard in Ukraine 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭Jizique


    https://m.bild.de/politik/ralf-stegner-geheimtreffen-mit-putin-schergen-in-baku-681d1aa1a81ba818d8fa69af

    Ah Germany, double dealing as usual with Bild reporting that leading politicians of both main parties including the CDU leader and chanxellor candidate in the last election in 2021, Armin Laschet, have been having secret meetings with people close to Putin in Baku



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,246 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Looks good in theory but you are dealing with a nuclear power with a rather unhinged group of people calling the shots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,443 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭poop emoji


    Russian Corruption and competent men needed to build and maintain infrastructure dying like flies for Putin

    The article you linked mentioned new apartments having sewage issues



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Rawr


    God dammit Hungary…and of course it's in the Transcarpathia too.

    Briefly if you don't about this: The Transcarpathia is a section of far-Western Ukraine.

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    It's passed hands a few times in history, and for a good chunk of that time it was part of neighboring Hungary.

    By WWII it was part of Czechoslovakia until given to the Axis-membered Kingdom of Hungary by Nazi Germany then after the war it was transferred to Soviet Ukriane, which gives us the current border.

    Some elements in Hungary view this area as somewhere that should be rejoined to modern Hungary, thus this silly spy nonsense was probably part of that.

    transcarpia.jpg

    The ridiculous irony of all that is that if the Hungarians would just be rid of the nonsense their Trump Mini-me Prime-minister and focused on helping Ukraine, then Ukraine would far sooner be in a position to join the EU Customs Union and possibly even Schengan. Then the Ukriane/Hungary border would be just like the Holland/Belguim border; little more than a line on the ground that you can cross riding a local bus if you want to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,052 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The Orcs are not going to start WW3 over a no-fly zone over Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Rawr


    "Nuclear Power"

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    In fairness of course, the Soviet Union were a Nuclear Power, and the Russian Federation inherited most of that, however: they've shown very little beyond nuclear bluster in recent decades, and despite all manner of red lines as well as actual invasion into Russia…no nukes were used.

    Russia are of course dangerous, but I think it's time to retire their Nuclear threat. I suspect that it doesn't exist anymore beyond the pile of rusted 70's era tech in an abandoned tunnel system.

    As for "Power". Yea..Russia used to be a Power…they even used to be an Empire…but now they're dysfunctional large European state who are creeking under the legacy of what came before. They're no Soviet Union, not even close. For sure, they are dangerous, but that threat assesment should be measured against the threat they are now…and not the threat that the Kremlin dream that they are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭jmreire


    And not to mention their dwindling cash stockpile. Putin increased income tax from 20% to 25% on 1st of jan 2025, and in the first 2 mths of 2025, the tax intake dropped by 19% compared to 2024.



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