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Lions tour to Australia

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  • #542
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,196 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Hansen over Graham is a head-scratcher.



  • #543
    hawley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭hawley


    Am surprised that Prendergast has missed out. If the announcement was last week, he definitely would have gone. Don't see any great benefit in bringing Marcus Smith

    Communication was the greatest fatality



  • #544
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,385 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123428890#Comment_123428890

    Irish and English other way round? 9 forwards, 6 backs



  • #545
    sydthebeat
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123428889#Comment_123428889

    i think Scott Cummings and Mack Hansen are real surprises there though.

    most interestingly, no Willis, No Farrell



  • #546
    johnh6767
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 660 ✭✭✭johnh6767


    That’s a very strong squad. Feel they got it right. Aching for Doris. Delighted for Kelleher, Conan, Ringrose, Mack, Beirne, Ryan, McCarthy as those less certain than the other very proud bunch from Ireland.



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  • #547
    CONSI
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭CONSI


    Not sure how they pick as besides Northamption the other englisg sides have been hockeyed in europe and the premiership isnt exactly super strong. A lot of this comes down to TV, if there are not a loot of english in a squad people dont watch and England id the bigegst market for the Lions..Wales thrown a bone with 2 players…



  • #548
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 43,702 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123428897#Comment_123428897

    yep, my bad, adjusted in the OP.

    i think we've done extremely well to get 15 onto a 38 man squad to be honest. Delighted for Ringrose and JVDF, who should have travelled last time. Gutted for Doris.



  • #549
    Rugbyf565
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    Osborne/Tommy O’Brien/Darcy Graham should be in ahead of Mack Hansen & Eliott Daly



  • #550
    Jump_In_Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,148 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    So, potentially a team of:

    Porter, Sheehan, Furlong,
    Beirne, McCarthy,
    -, Conan, Van der Flier,
    Gibson-Park, -,
    Lowe, Aki, Ringrose, Hansen,
    Keenan.

    Kelleher, Ryan



  • #551
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,196 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123428890#Comment_123428890

    8 Scots, 13 English



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  • #552
    crisco10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,361 ✭✭✭crisco10


    I see the sense in M. Smith over Sam P. the formers ability to play 15 to a decent level is important in a tour environment. 3 dedicated 10s is a luxury.



  • #553
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,385 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123428908#Comment_123428908

    They finished highest of the Home Nations in the 6N…



  • #554
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,385 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123428892#Comment_123428892

    He covers multiple positions which is useful for this kind of tour (and he's a good player).



  • #555
    leakyboots
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,386 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123428911#Comment_123428911

    Tommy O'Brien… on the Lions??



  • #556
    bingobango12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    Props: Porter, Genge, Schoeman, Furlong, Stuart, Fagerson
    Hookers: Sheehan, Kelleher, LCD.
    2nd Rows: Beirne, Ryan, Itoje ©, McCarthy, Cummings.
    Back Row: Morgan, Chessum, Earl, Van Der Flier, Curry, Pollock, Conan.
    Scrum Half: Gibson-Park, Mitchell, Williams.
    Out Half: F Smith, Russell, M Smith.
    Centres: Aki, Jones, Tuipulotu, Ringrose.
    Back 3: Lowe, Freeman, Hansen, Van Der Merwe, Keenan, Kinghorn, Daly.

    38 total: 15 Irish , 13 English , 8 Scottish, 2 Welsh



  • #557
    hawley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭hawley


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123428938#Comment_123428938

    He's only an OK player, in my opinion. He's supposedly an option at full back, but he's poor enough there. It's a big squad, so covering different positions is not overly important. If Russell and Fin Smith are available, I don't think that he'll come close to the test squads.

    Communication was the greatest fatality



  • #558
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,421 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Daly going is a joke



  • #559
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,385 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123428955#Comment_123428955

    I doubt he'll make the test squad either, but the same could be said of a number of players chosen. If they wanted a 3rd ten to fill in where necessary then Marcus Smith was the obvious choice to me - someone like SP can't slot in elsewhere. I think calling him a poor fullback is fairly harsh as well.



  • #560
    pappyodaniel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123428955#Comment_123428955

    He'd make a good substitute if you're chasing a game.



  • #561
    CalmaftertheGav
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭CalmaftertheGav


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123428935#Comment_123428935

    Youve got Keenan, Kinghorn, Daly that can play 15.



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  • #562
    sydthebeat
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    IMO controversial selections (lesser calls in brackets):

    LCD and Kelleher over George (and possibly Lake)

    Cummings over D Jenkins (and Lawes)

    Pollack / JVDF over Willis

    Hansen over Graham



  • #563
    CalmaftertheGav
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭CalmaftertheGav


    Fair play to the media, managing to get Marcus onto a tour he should be nowhere near!



  • #564
    letowski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭letowski


    12 for Leinster is a record, held previously by Munster in 2009 (10 over the course of tour).

    Not surprised Hansen is going to be honest, his playmaking off the wing is a unique trait he brings over the other wingers, and is central piece to the Irish attack.



  • #565
    leakyboots
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,386 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    I think Joe McCarthy is a bit lucky to be there, not sure his performances have warranted it



  • #566
    StevenToast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Mack hansen and James Ryan are very lucky

    "SUBSCRIBE TO BOARDS YOU TIGHT CÙNT".....Plato 400 B.C



  • #567
    crusd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,483 ✭✭✭crusd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123428911#Comment_123428911

    Osborne and O'Brien over a player who is always picked ahead of them (and delivers something neither of them can). Hmmm



  • #568
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,421 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Disappointed for Bealham, think he's straight up a better TH than Furlong at this point. Think Prendergast has been better than Russell and Marcus Smith this season but Saturday hurt his chances greatly. Daly going is ridiculous, especially given there's multiple players who are better than can cover 10 and 15. Osborne and Graham both better options imo.



  • #569
    sydthebeat
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123428892#Comment_123428892

    Intersting question re M Smith

    barring injury, i think he'll start the First nations / pasifika game, and he might bench on some of the other franchise games.

    However for test games, do you keep slots 21 and 22 for guys who can only play 9 and 10, and then 23 has to cover the rest of the back line? Daly would be perfect for that, and shows perhaps why he is a selection.

    i think it would be a travesty if M smith benches ahead of F Smith, but can i see it happening??? yeah possibly.



  • #570
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123428892#Comment_123428892

    I'm not.

    As a Leinster supporter I've watched him play himself out of it for the last few months. He needs a long pre-seasom, time to recover and take stock. He doesn't need a Lions Tour right now. There'll be 3 more for him to go on, all things being equal.



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  • #571
    bingobango12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123428976#Comment_123428976

    Who else should have gone though as third choice? I would have had Farrell personally but brought M Smith as a back 3 option but Farrell hasn't played much this season, Prendergast killed any chance he had last Saturday, Crowley has been poor most of the season, had some good games but more poor than good and Ford imo is behind everyone else mentioned.

    He didn't really have a huge amount of options of anybody in decent form other than Smith as that third 10.



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