Manchester United Thread 2024/25 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

We are where we are because of

A leveraged buyout by the glazers which has created an increasing year on year debt. Taking massive dividends out of the club.
Nepotistic appointments to the board. Hiring Ed Woodward and refusing to hire a D.o.F.

Complete lack of structure when it comes to to buying and paying players like Pogba, Hargreaves, Mhkitaryan, Falcao, Depay, De Beek, Sancho, Di Maria, Antony, Alexis, Lukaku the list is endless. Massive money lost on all these. Which has led to the current FFP issues and share price ($1000 worth of stock in 2012 is worth $84 today). Poor performance on the pitch in my opinion caused by poor/non existent recruitment structure ,resulting in a lack of prize money, no investment in the club or infrastructure. All stems from the Glazers, no professionalism

The buck stops with the glazers.

If the 25% increase is true then that would mean he's on 400K a week as is but isn't he meant to be on 300K or 350K. Plus they love to inflate stories about United when money is involved. Like how Antony was on 200K a week.

Case wasn't on 500k last season.

He may have negotiated not having the reduction.

Amorim made some comments during the week about only signing players who really want to play for the club which is fair enough but he mentioned that players signing for us must not be dependent on CL qualification however most top players with any ambition want to play in the CL. I don't think an ambitious project plan or strategy will be a selling factor.

Amorim shouldn't be judged on this season, he inherited a shitshow and has had injuries to deal with, and miraculously likely to get CL football next season, which is massive as it will help to attract the right type of players. Still think United should be higher than where they are now and if they don't win EL, it's an absolutely atrocious season.

The honeymoon period will be over next season and he has essentially gotten a free pass over the last few months, and if he wins the EL will have credit in the bank and some breathing space but, will need to start next season reasonably well, stay in the top 6/8 in the league and show real progress. A club like United should never finish in the bottom half of the league regardless how bad things are.

IMO Amorim has burnt through his leeway - not saying we need to be competing for 1st next season, but he will struggle to survive any periodsd of poor form next season.

the summer transfer window and pre-season training is hugely important. We have to start next season playing well, offensively and defensively.

I'd like to see a stat for errors that have led to goals conceded as that seems to be a regular feature with United.

Bilbao will know if they score early United will panic ..very cliché but the first 20mins is so important on Thursday

I doubt any manager would be happy with that decision being honest.

He will be judged better when he gets in players of his own choosing, right now he is dealing with players from previous managers!

We were ridiculously blessed he seemed happy out being a back up. He'd have comfortably been a starter for all non top 4 sides

Somewhat balances out de Ligts likely absence for Utd…..

joint 2nd with 13 according to the below:

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/error_lead_to_goal?se=719

No wonder he played well in the 1st leg.

Bilbao played their full first team in the league this weekend so they seem to be focusing on CL qualification through league position rather than Europa but I fully agree. It doesn't even need to be an early goal if they are 1-0 at around 60 minutes that will be plenty of time for us to fall apart. Lyon scored four against us in 35 minutes and were down to ten for 15 of those minutes…

Absolutely you cannot wait for a manager to get his own players to judge him but that's not what is happening here.

There has been a clear shift in transfer policy over the last 12 months. The last few signings have all been of a certain profile. Young and athletic. Dorgu for example is not limited to playing in a back 5 if we have to change manager. Neither is Heaven or Yoro etc.

Now of course, any manager is going to need a few players to fit into his system and that's reasonable. There is no doubt that the results in the league have been awful. But I would argue that the team is actually getting better bit by bit from a system point of view. Injuries have severely hampered us and our forward line has been awful. The physical profile of the team has been probably the worst in the league this season and we just don't score goals.

I think we are on the right track with Amorim and I expect that we will see a discernable change in how we play next season.