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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,353 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    It was Rob Lowe, he literally flies 100 Americans to Ireland for every episode of his gameshow "The Floor" which is filmed in Bray but you'd never know it:

    I'm not supporting the tariffs as a good way to combat this, but I completely understand the US Government thinking that it's ridiculous for it to be more cost efficient for Fox to film in Bray instead of LA where they have their studios. It's not like a King Arthur or Vikings or whatever where you want the Wicklow landscape to film, it's just a studio stage.

    Regardless of your leanings, this seems like something incentivised wrongly somewhere



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Ah that's what it was, it was in my head, thought it was a movie. Id say though the same goes in the movie sector, it would be vastly cheaper to shoot elsewhere. Probably even with the tariffs, whatever they are on 🤷‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,168 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Yes. That's the best idea.

    Ignore everything he says and does and therefore ensure he won't be held accountable for any of his despicable behavior and acts.

    Gotcha.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Calm yourself chief. When he comes out with silly things (e.g. Alcatraz, AI pics) he is best ignored. Alcatraz will not get rebuilt, 100% guaranteed. We all know it's silly.

    Or you can spend the next 4 years getting upset and obsessed. He talks a massive amount of shite, knock yourself out getting excited by it all. People are already starting to ignore him.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,431 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    He wants to reopen Alcatraz.... It would take 1-2 years to assess and plan all the fixes and construction required let alone actually doing all of it to the point it could be reopened as a functioning prison. Also it's a very popular tourist destination currently so all the direct and indirect jobs there will be wiped out… so much winning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    It's opening up the trade war globally to include services, even if somewhat indirectly. The US has a massive surplus in services and so is the vulnerable party if things continue to go south and they implement the planned tariffs after the delay.

    As far as filming in LA goes, if it's really so much cheaper in other countries, then it's just going to make movies more expensive and thus more risky to make. Do you risk more money and produce it in America, or do you produce elsewhere and let consumers pay the tariff? Like, if the costs to produce in America are too high now, it will become even more expensive if everyone is trying to do it.

    The bigger picture here is if it leads to things like gaming. Games are made all over the world. Would America start tariffing games 100% if they not made entirely in the US?

    Why am I, a normal person, capably of putting more thought into this than the Presidential Administration. He has a meeting with Jon Voight, who suggested tax breaks, and instead went for tariffs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The solution is probably the US offering tax breaks for productions. Most US shows seem to be generally made in Canada for example and just tend to pretend they're in the US.

    US states have done similar incentives and they've worked btw. Eg Ironman 2/3 and the hunger games were filmed in North Carolina due to similar schemes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,274 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    On what basis do you decide if he is being serious or not?

    And don't you think a politician, POTUS even more so, should not be simply making up rubbish for laughs?

    He wants to be treated with the respect his office deserves, he should treat it with the same respect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Also if I'm reading it right, a Spanish movie faces tariffs when it gets released in the US?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,981 ✭✭✭yagan


    He'll make suits mandatory next after a weekend of watching 1930s movies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭Economics101


    I'm sure one reason for opening Alcatraz may be sticking it to California and San Francisco in particular. Anything to hurt the tourist industry in that Liberal hellhole.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,978 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    It should not be necessary to 'take a joke' from the President of the United States of America, there is usually dignity and diplomacy in the role of any head of state, though of course that is very easy to forget under the current US administration.

    Neither he nor his followers are aware that what he says should be assumed to be heard by both adversaries and allies and interpreted by people of different cultures and languages and is part of the soft influence of the country that he serves. Serves, not rules or controls.

    Of course the damage is done now; there is no respect for him and by extension, the country. Apart from his cult followers no-one believes anything he says, yet everyone is aware of how much damage his vindictive, paranoid, senile rambling is doing. We are past 'he wants to be a dictator', he is already acting like one, making up new rules about anything that occurs to him, ignoring and trying to dismantle the 'checks and balances', having his hand-picked cabinet of syncophants telling him how wonderful he is, generally trashing the country and disturbing the balance of the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,978 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Having said all that ^^^, I do wonder if, 80 years after the last world war, the world is ready for another shake up, and this is it. Complacency is the enemy of progress, and the US had its share of complacency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    I was startled back in the day to discover that the USA I thought I was seeing in most of the episodes of the 'x-Files' was really Canada.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The EU should heavily invest in enterprise, it's an ideal time for it IMHO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    The Irish economy will collapse without Rob Lowe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,095 ✭✭✭Field east


    Is his thought process now to ‘ house’ all those ‘criminals’ in Alcatraz instead of sending them ‘home’ to El SAlvador.
    And why is it necessary now to consider the development of Alcatraz to service as a prison again when there is a lot of prison space being freed up by sending criminals back ‘home ?
    The mind boggles again?

    Or is all of this To ‘Flood the Zone’ with Sh—-y/ completely off the wall statements so as to get us all talking/ hyped up so the real issues are not discussed or even tabled?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,981 ✭✭✭yagan


    What are the real issues?

    They don't want to work in nursing homes and crop harvesting so deporting irregular immigration that's been normal since WWII isn't going to magic a solution.

    I've heard young Irish look down on agri, the trades and care work as immigrant jobs.

    I'm sure we'll have our entitlement politics as some stage.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    it’s more flood the zone… Israel says they are going to complete their genocide my taking Gaza and their attack on a ship with foreign aid should be the number one story… instead Trump is sucking up all the attention with his nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's not really that, though. The real issues IMO are climate change, increasing wealth inequality, unrepresentative politics, vast amounts of political and economic power in the hands of unaccountable corporations and the media which has gone from holding power to account to getting in bed with it. These things are either never discussed or only ever discussed in a superficial manner.

    Look at birth rates. We've taken the hardest, most expensive thing people do and made it a preserve for the wealthy or those in the middle class and then we act surprised when birth rates plummet. Remember when Visa and Mastercard threatened to boycott OnlyFans. We've allowed two companies the power to delete any website or business and nobody says a single word.

    As for agricultural jobs, they're sh*t. I know because my childhood was spent working on a farm. It's backbreaking work for virtually nothing with a high risk of injury. The question isn't why people aren't doing it, it's why those who do bother at all. Common sense is not the same as entitlement.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    People missing the bigger picture here

    It’s a first tariff on a service



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,123 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    absolutely, and this admin hasnt a clue whats its doing, and wont give a flying fcuk about those negatively impacted from their actions



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 97,261 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


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    So he's saying that between the tariffs and falls in disposable income, this Christmas people will only be able to purchase a fifth to a tenth of the goods they would normally ?

    If you got less than 10 dolls last year, you might not get one this year. If you got less than five then you probably won't get any.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,092 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Excellent, rationing of COLORED lights from China - ten per household saving the planet from all the energy waste and pollution from festive season lights on lawns and rooftops. Customs checks on sleighs flying in from the Greenland direction; "sorry Santa, its from the great leader"….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,092 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Perfect way to ruin Trump's weekend, have the media highlight Pence getting the John F Kennedy Profile in Courage Award on Sunday, if the media does mention it in general and not on page 9.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Sounds like the federal government telling people how to live their lives

    I thought the right were against that type of thing 🤔



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 97,261 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Good thing no country has ever thought of reciprocal tariffs ever.

    Or other non-tariff trade barriers.

    The number of government-approved American releases in China plunged from a peak of over 60 in 2018 to as few as 15 in 2022, according to industry data. They rebounded to 35 in 2023 and totalled 31 in 2024. - How many this year ?

    Good thing that Hollywood Accounting doesn't really exist. Return of the Jedi cost $32.5m to make but it still hasn't turned a profit despite a total income of $569m. Hollywood Accounting. Very creative. On top of that there's price transfer, intellectual property, CGI costs and the technology to phone stuff in so I can't see how Trump could force Hollywood to bring money back to stay in the USA.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭thereiver


    I heard on rte radio there's 1000s of Irish people working in America. with no visa some they get married to an American citizen they apply to be a USA citizen while the papers are being processed they go to government office

    Some people are being arrested and deported for not having a visa . America is becoming a fascist country .ice have quotas they need to arrest and deport x no of people per week. This is happening to people from many country's .

    If I married an Irish woman the chances of being deported in Ireland is close to zero unless I commit a crime one of the things that makes the economy boom is immigrants who came to work and make a new life

    The American economy was literally built by immigrants



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