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Parking query

  • 02-05-2025 07:27PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭


    Hello,

    I've seen this type of 'No Parking' showing up in my local village, and in other ones nearby. They seem to be popping up outside of where businesses have a car park.

    Is this actually a valid no parking sign? I thought no parking would be zig-zag, as opposed to a 'yellow box' which would be a junction?

    I don't think this is a proper no=parking sign either?

    Screenshot 2025-05-02 at 19.21.58.png


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,341 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    You clearly have an agenda here

    perhaps

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    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,766 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    The style and colours are irrelevant, it's on private property so the signage has no legal effect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Speedline


    I would have thought it was obvious not to block the gate, especially when there's a yellow box there. But that's just me I suppose.



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,587 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    It might have no legal standing, but it's certainly bad manners. Why would you block someone's access to their own property?

    If someone has to put a "no parking" sign on their gate it's because people are thoughtless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭ezra_


    I'm just interested.
    I generally don't block gates or entrances, and do respect signs like that. Do unto others, etc.

    However, I was just surprised to see a 'yellow box' in lieu of the zig zags, and was wondering what its actual legal standing was.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭baxterooneydoody


    Wouldn't the entrance leading up to that gate be considered a right of way and entrance to a property, why would anyone block an entrance even if there was no sign on the gate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭baxterooneydoody


    The yellow box may apply to vehicles exiting whatever business or premises is inside that gate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,495 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    You can be curious as to the legality of the signage without intending to block the entrance / ignore them.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,978 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    What type of business is behind the gate ?

    Is the hatched area public property ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,706 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    The yellow box is due to the 'park anywhere' type of people.

    It is an offense to obstruct a vehicular entrance.

    https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1997/si/182

    36 Prohibitions on Parking

    1. (1) Save as otherwise provided for in these Regulations and subject to article 5, a vehicle shall not be parked on a public road at a location, in a manner or for a purpose referred to in this article.

    (2) A vehicle shall not be parked—

    ...

    ( f ) in any place, position or manner that will result in the vehicle obstructing, delaying or interfering with the entrance to or exit from a fire brigade station, an ambulance station or a Garda station;

    ( g ) in any place, position or manner that will result in the vehicle obstructing an entrance or an exit for vehicles to or from a premises, save with the consent of the occupier of such premises;

    ...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭ezra_


    Its a private entrance, I don't think there is a business there.

    Yes, the hatch is on the road and the footpath.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,766 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    The legal standing of the signage is that it has no legal standing.

    I'm not suggesting that it is legal to block a private entrance, I'm just saying that the legal situation is the same, with or without the signage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,978 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    It's possible the hatching is put there by the local authority.

    I have seen where in places they will put a yellow hatched area to improve traffic flow.

    Situations where traffic could be impeded by vehicles being unable to make a right turn due to queues at a junction/traffic lights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,766 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    The yellow hatching is not a council sign, the area in the photo is obviously private property. Look at the door to the house on the left, there is no footpath directly outside so all of the area in the photo is private.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,978 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Could be but the op says that's a footpath and road in the photo.

    Maybe another pic showing more if the area would clarify.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    The OP has confirmed this is a public area. Is there a particular reason why you suggest it’s not? There appears to be a brick footpath directly outside the front door of the house, not that this is of any great significance in determining if it is a public road or place. Arrangements like that photographed are common on minor streets in rural Ireland.

    Assuming that the OP is correct and this is a public road - The yellow markings are a yellow box junction as appears in the traffic signs manual. Parking or stopping on the box is prohibited. The other no parking sign has no particular legal significance, but was likely installed by the business owner as a reminder.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,382 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Seems straightforward to me, I'd have taken the yellow hatching to be a deliberate indicator that the gates are used for vehicular access to the property. That cars or vans will drive over it, but it's a warning not to park there.



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