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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,752 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    although it does refer to itself as a visual podcast and its on youtube, its not the same thing RTE are promoting, high production value dramas rather then audio lifestyle programmes.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    RTÉ have multiple podcasts that they don't support. I often wonder what kind of audience they are getting. Many are badly produced compared to small time podcasters.

    Also RTÉ Player is inundated with smaller lifestyle programmes from the RTÉ "The Lab", often between 10 and 15 mins long and often with a main sponsor / product placement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    It doesn't matter what the medium is, nor does it change the core point - they (RTÉ, having cried the poor mouth for years and needing a govt. bail out to stay afloat) are supporting a commercial (and private) rival with taxpayer’s money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,579 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Looks like that FOI story has legs. A thousand documents have been requested. The Indo is on the case.

    https://www.independent.ie/news/fionnan-sheahan-exiled-ryan-tubridy-now-wants-data-watchdog-to-get-him-1000-documents-on-payments-scandal/a1131477561.html

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭amlinopta


    Marty Morrissey thanking producer Rory Coveney for his work on this morning's bank holiday special. Is that the same Rory Coveney who was heavily involved with Toy Show the Musical and reportedly received a €200k exit package? Must be back freelancing. Well connected



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    it’s not exactly a common name so you’d have to assume it’s him. He is not a producer by trade or training so if it is him questions would surely have to be asked as to how he’s back in RTÉ in any capacity, yet alone in a job he’s not qualified for.


    it really is yet another 2 fingers from RTÉ to the taxpayer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    All rte do are show two fingers to both the taxpayers and the inept ministers driving this country into the ground.

    I keep asking myself why I pay the lousy tv licence. I don't have rte on my tv and refuse to get it. I've heard that rte player is a joke.

    They will continue to spew nonsense and keep buck passing until everyone interested in having a decent honestly run state broadcaster just gives up.

    Bakhurst will retreat to uk as soon as it looks like the net might be tight ING on answers needed.

    And God forbid Tubs makes a return.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    That would be Ronan Coveney who's the producer for Claire Byrne.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,855 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Any chance of the bould Dee answering a few questions anytime soon? Perhaps she can fill in the blanks for Ryan?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It seems to me that Ryan is looking for information after he and she both left RTÉ, not anything for example regarding anything that RTÉ and he might have said prior to that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    id say theres two chances….fcuk all and sweet fcuk all…

    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It is amazing to see how the media can be so distracted.

    Its as if they know. The NUJ branch for RTÉ possible went to Kay Before and said, you know this issue you having how about we demand that you demand that Israel not part take in the Eurovision? Yes, please then the soft meeting with the Media Committee might not be about the IT system and everything else.

    story this morning

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rte-boss-kevin-bakhurst-says-meeting-with-alan-kelly-was-constructive/a381524147.html

    RTE director general Kevin Bakhurst said his meeting with chairman of the media committee, Alan Kelly, over Israel's inclusion in the European Broadcasting Union, was "constructive".

    Kay Before: Joe, Joe I used to listen to you from London but you know your time has come

    Joe: A time does be do be coming for them there and you might do being going yourself

    Kay Before: Let's not get ahead of ourselves Joe, as you know we have a bit of a write down problem

    Joe: Those do be dreadful Kay how are you feeling about it

    Kay Before: Terrible Joe just terrible

    Joe: When did you do be find bout about it Kay

    Kay Before: After I signed off on the annual account

    Joe: Jayus Kay those annual report do be does be terrible

    Kay Before: They do be Joe

    Joe: How can I and liveline help

    Kay Before: Retire and we will mention you'll be an important part of the 100 years

    Joe: Oh! how much does I do be getting Kay

    Kay Before: Lots just it has to go through the independent producers

    Joe: Oh! those Independent producers do be great

    Kay Before: but sadly we be letting go of a few people

    Joe: Oh that does be do be terrible

    Kay Before: You could go on the late late show

    Joe: Oh that does be do be great, me as host of the late late show in 2026 after the interloper Keilty goes.

    Kay Before: Yes, yes now what were we talking about

    Joe: Who knows that does be do be how the media works.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Why do you call him Kay Before?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Kay - is short for Kevin (like D for Deirdre)

    Before - taken from Star Trek, the inital design for Data

    before - he was acting DG before Dee Forbes (he was also Deputy DG for 6 months when she was DG)

    fore - Forbes

    KB - His initials

    I had gone with Kay Beforbes for a while, perhaps that is better.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    If you really have to go through such a rigamorole to come up with a nickname, it's not as witty as you think it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Your possibly right but won't stop me calling him Kay Before, all the same.

    Anyway just thinking Joe will prob get a weekend job on Lyric, that or he will get a holding fee like his mentor.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.independent.ie/podcasts/the-indo-daily/the-indo-daily-ryan-tubridy-joe-duffy-eurovision-is-the-rte-soap-opera-back-in-business/a608999845.html

    Kay Beforbes: Well I didn't know about it so I couldn't raise it

    Ellen Coyle: But I am sure someone knew about it

    Kay Beforbes: Well eh look …it was in the accounts … ddudu.. they were publicly available and the were laid before the houses of the oireachtas … look I better go in I've got to see Mr. Kelly

    This is where the problem is, Beforbes is right the Annual reports for each year of the write offs were put before the oirechtas… but the nervousness comes from the fact that he signed off on those accounts and should have been fully aware not "Well I didn't know … but it was all publicly available"

    Kay quick question "why did you sign off on something you knew nothing about?"

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.thesun.ie/tv/15219024/emmy-irelands-eurovision-dustin-the-turkey-rte-exit/

    RTE’s Head of Delegation, Michael Kealy, said he would discuss at an upcoming meeting of the EBU, the lack of juries in the semi-finals, blaming the phone voting for scuppering Ireland’s chances.

    He also said that RTE lacked the resources to back its entry.

    Michael said: “RTE has limitations compared to other broadcasters, you look at the amount of money and effort they spend on selecting their acts, and the campaign they run from the selection process to Eurovision night. That takes time and money.

    "You don’t want to hear about RTE’s woes but unfortunately that’s the truth, and I don’t know how we are going to resolve that.”

    This is the problem at RTÉ their problems are all about others and not themselves, time for RTÉ wise up with statements like this, it just shows even lower down managers don't understand the plight that they put themselves in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,560 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Hopefully not pumping more shekels into the nest of numbnuts out there.

    These dudes need to understand reality sometime soon.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,237 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Of course it had to be Brown Thomas for the most purchases, no using Dealz or Mr. Price

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/rte-spent-more-140k-over-35246050

    Almost half of the €144,000 bill was attributed to RTÉ’s central make-up department, but other well-known programmes ran up their own bills.

    The cosmetics tab for Fair City was €16,705 while just over €3,800 was spent on the Eurovision Song Contest. TG4 incurred makeup costs of nearly €4,600 while just over €15,000 was paid out for the Today Show.

    Other costs included €3,400 for the Late Late Show including the Toy Show special and €5,300 for weather forecasts.

    A €44.96 bill was attributed to the Sunday Game and €53.56 for Champions League coverage.

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I don't know how RTÉ have got away with 10,000 + with this list

    There is nothing to say the average number of request per person, the 3 requests for the 3 - 4 people getting 10k could all come from one person, You'd assume over the course of 3 months anything over 10k is a lot of work outside your normal day to day.

    same goes for the 11 requests between 5K and 10K, lets say the average is 7.5K 1 person could be getting 30K !

    Nothing

    1 - 1000

    1001 - 5000

    5000 - 10000

    10000+

    Total

    Q1

    50%

    26%

    22%

    1 - 2%

    <1%

    133

    Q2

    50%

    29%

    15%

    6%

    0

    106

    Q3

    51%

    27%

    20%

    1-2%

    <1%

    177

    Q4

    52%

    31%

    16%

    0

    <1%

    116

    Est By Number

    532

    Q1

    67

    35

    29

    2

    1

    133

    Q2

    53

    31

    16

    6

    0

    106

    Q3

    90

    48

    35

    3

    1

    177

    Q4

    60

    36

    19

    0

    1

    116

    270

    149

    99

    11

    3

    532


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Fantomas9mm


    Has Dee Forbes recovered from her illness that prevented her from going before the oireachtas ?



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I was about to google that 😂need a cup of tea I think!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    Can Dee come out to play? 😂 Shame to be cooped up indoors in some of the best weather we have had in years 🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    Although - I have heard that when people are faced with a possible pensionectomy procedure, it can help reverse the symptoms of pretendonitis, leading to a much better outcome overall and a prolonged life expectancy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    pensionectomies are very rare TBH, many have to travel to get such procedures,  


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.irishtimes.com/media/2025/05/26/chambers-refused-to-back-open-ended-rte-redundancy-scheme-documents-show/

    On February 24th the secretary general of the Department of Arts and Media, Feargal Ó Coigligh, said in a letter to the Department of Public Expenditure: “While I appreciate that multiannual voluntary exit programmes have not been previously sanctioned, as has been set out in previous submissions, a degree of flexibility is required to enable the transition from in-house to commissioned and independently produced content. This is a process which requires lead-in times for replacement content, and by virtue of the voluntary nature of the exit scheme, the potential redeployment of resources within RTÉ.”

    You'd have to question why a civil servant is bringing up this issue.

    This is a complaint put forward by RTÉ, does it actually stand up?

    Almost all in-house production that will move to independent producers will be the core RTÉ TV shows, there aren't actually that many of them.

    Fair City, The Late Late Show and Today With Maura and Dathí. I could be wrong but I don't think RTÉ have any other entertainment in-house entertainment programming produced in-house.

    There are Factual and Religious Documentaries but many of those are produced independently with the exception of Sunday service* and Irish Language serials like Scannal*.

    TLLS and Today are now both off for the Summer months, they have 3 months to move to an indo producer. Staff could be utilized elsewhere in the organization.

    AFAIK Today is largely produced by a contract organization, and from 1998 until around 2015 all Daytime TV on RTÉ was independently produced, how did they move from PM Live (RTÉ taking over from Live at 3 and 12 to 1) to Open House (Taking over from PM Live produced by Tyrone Productions) so quickly back then? Has something changed?

    To me this sound much more like….

    Look Exe Producer of TLLS we'd like you to apply for an exit… don't worry we will get you to set up TLLS ltd and you can produce the show "independently" now it will be an open competition but with your experience on the show, your company is the most likely to get at least the first 3 years.

    *It's been announced that Sunday Service is moving to independent producers but to me it sounds like they are looking for a low budget stick a camera in a church somewhere in the country and broadcast.

    *The Budget for Scannal could easily be sent to TG4 as part of the 1 hour a day of TV that RTÉ support TG4 with, allowing them to commission those docs from Indo producers, while their in-house staff that look after those shows could move to Nuacht RTÉ to support that section of the service.

    And on another note, RTÉ back in 2016 were able to wind down their in-house Young People's Unit quite quickly, though they didn't replace their programming with anything rather cutting costs and keep the Indo budget the same as before.

    The rest of the RTÉ in-house programming is News and Current Affairs and RTÉ have no plans to move this to the independent sector.

    Meaning almost all of RTÉ TV is either commission or bought in series from abroad.

    As for RTÉ Radio … I just don't see them move much further with independent producers, I don't see them commissioning a long running peak time show.

    My question back to Feargal Ó Coigligh would be why do you think there would be such a great lead in time required, and how was this explained to you and by whom?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Just to also mention RTÉ Sport, you could argue that to move RTÉ Sport over to Indo Producers would take time, but I don't think RTÉ are considering this. You also have to look at RTÉ Sport's non-live productions.

    Are all of the podcast necessary what audience do they get, out of interest I dropped into them, and TBH I have seen better produced amateur YouTube videos on sport, and podcasts. Game On is that really necessary on 2FM? It has about 50k listeners but 2FM is a music station not a sport station, it very rarely carries any live sport, and I'd argue that that has only happened in the last decade.

    Here are cuts where you could utilize the staff in better areas of sport production, are they really considering moving those podcasts and chat-shows out to independent producers and if so why? of what benefit are they to RTÉ? and for that matter the sport audience?

    And even if you are moving live sport to an indo producer are you really commissioning a programme? Surely this is more of a contract over a set number of years than a commission.

    Are they honestly saying they need a Sports programme commissioner to get 3 year contracts for different live sporting events, is this not something that the Head of Sport and his team would work on.


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