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2025 World Championships

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭Omega28


    For me this years WC has been poor. Standard of matches were just average. It really just feels like any other tournament.

    Can't believe Williams was well out of the top 16 some years back and talking about retirement. Here he is on the cusp of another WC Final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭Omega28


    I think the Stephen Lee ban of 12 years was very harsh when you look at the length of time some other players were banned for.

    What about Quintan Hann? Wasn't he served with a life time ban? I wonder what Lee and Hann are up to these days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,040 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Lee was the biggest clown ever, if you look at the matches he was playing in that were part of the match fixing case. He would hit a few lovely crisp shots, lovely cue action. Then he would inexplicably miss a simple shot. Make an over the top reaction hand on face, odd facial expressions etc
    That fella wouldn’t win an Oscar. He still claims he was innocent works in China now as a coach.

    Top 4/6 player at the time plenty of money, beyond daft what Lee did.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,040 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Amazed you think this, one of the more memorable for me for the last 30 years. Great match ups. The sweet spot of old legends v the new brigade. Looks like there will be record number of centuries as well.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,846 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Yup. Wilson out in R1, Allens 147, Trumps centuries, Higgins missed blue, Ronnie taking a hiding, few 10-8s, 10-9s and 13-12s



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Only a casual snooker fan, but can I ask why there seems to be a dislike towards Ronnie?

    To me, he is one of the greatest sportsmen of my lifetime and box office. Less likely to watch the final its entirety with him gone now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I dunno.

    Himself and Williams seem to be the only two players with a personality beyond 'must focus on cue ball'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭geographica


    hi can I ask what time coverage starts this evening? tia


    Edit oh I see it’s 7pm 👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,040 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Without doubt best snooker player of all time that is beyond argument at this stage. His stats and achievements are ridiculously good. Might not be bettered in 50 years time. He draws the crowds in both for the snooker obsessed and casual fan.

    But because snooker is a niche sport and has fallen in popularity in the Uk/Ireland compared to the heyday of 80’s even 90’s Ronnie O’Sullivan will never get a wider respect for his achievements.

    Why do people dislike him it is complex question. Because he is/was so dominant as the big draw the main snooker fraternity give him a LOT more leeway than they give others.

    Then throw in O’Sullivan’s well written problems about mental issues which are likely to do with his very dysfunctional family background.

    Partly because of this he has behaved oddly at times, and has come out with odd statements. And sometimes can seem very self centred and nasty.
    An inexcusable one in my view was when he slagged off lower ranked players and how he would “have to lose an arm and a leg” to fall out of the top 32/64.

    Shaun Murphy in particular (Who styled himself as Snooker ambassador - a board man) has been critical of some of O’Sullivan’s image as a working class hero.

    Ronnie’s family were millionaires made from sex shops, his father used to pay pros such as Doherty to play young Ronnie at home. He had his own table, fancy cue, it all laid on.

    Meanwhile Murphy’s background was working class council housing. But some Ronnie’s super fans brand Murphy as the “Posh Boy”. Murphy resents this and states it is just because he learnt to speak well etc. And points to the O’Sullivan family riches.

    Post edited by gormdubhgorm on

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,522 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Over 35 frames on their absolute best day I’m picking either Selby or Williams to beat anyone ever!!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,040 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Williams is a one off, probably my favourite player to watch.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,522 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    he’s a monster. Exceptional potter, break-builder, IQ, tactics and probably his strongest trait being his balls a steel and insanely calm temperament.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,841 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    What about Selby, 'the jester from Leicester', he's a gas ticket, a proper caution etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,965 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    That's not even a debate. At their best, Stephen Hendry would beat anyone. That guy was a century making machine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,522 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    they were all brilliant break builders. Lot lot more to the game than just break-building. Safety, tactics, temperament, shot-selection etc. Selby, for example is/was a brilliant break builder, and tactically made of steel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,965 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Hendry had all of the above, bar safety. He wasn't interested in it, he said so himself, and when he was at his peak, he didn't need it.

    There's infinitely more tournaments compared to most of his time in the sport, so it's not surprising that a lot of his records have fallen. I remember commentators back then saying his record of centuries would probably never be beaten, but he's still 6th on the all-time list, despite retiring over a decade ago.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    I'll back 2004 or 2008 Ronnie against 1992-94 Hendry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,040 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Have to agree there Hendry of the 90’s was ruthless the more pressure on him the better he played. If there was a pressure shot of high difficulty 90’s Hendry would be who I would want to take it.

    I would recommend anyone who has not seen them to look up Hendry’s best shots of his career on YouTube. He tried to recreate them on his channel recently.

    It was the snooker “yips” that stopped Hendry.

    Williams much more fun to watch though style wise, those long slow rolls he casually does. And throws in under arm shots and does doubles. Tricks commentary with his shot choices. Either potting snookers/safety unorthodox.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    And goes into the press conference of his last title win topless. Legend



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,965 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    What? And Ronnie hasn't had handy years, handy runs and doddle finals? He had easy finals against Dott, Carter, Hawkins and Wilson. None of whom will be remembered as greats of the game.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Most people have Higgins 3, I did think Willo deserves 4 now, ahead of Steve in 5th place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,965 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Ya, the yips, along with his lifelong cue getting smashed beyond repair somewhere around 2003, were his undoing. He retired at 43, but had considered retiring more than a decade earlier.

    I think some people are too young or don't remember just how good he was at his peak. There was nowhere safe on the table. Cue ball tight to the top cushion? It didn't matter. And there's never been a better break builder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,040 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Back in Hendry’s day depth wasn’t the same he would coast to the WC QF even SF most years.. I remember him giving hidings to Griffiths in the later stages.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    As someone who struggles with mental health and always has, I’m far less skeptical than you.

    He’s encouraging people to do mindfulness, something which is incredibly helpful. I couldn’t care less if he gets rich from it if I know it helps people.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,040 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I would be amazed if the World Championship is not set in China within the next decade or so. China is the heartbeat of snooker now.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,522 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    frame ball missed to go 14-11 up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,019 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    got it to go up 14-11.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,019 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    poor miss by trump on a red.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,841 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Surprised Judd conceded there; surely have a go at the black…



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    this is painful to watch. Trump is in bits

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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