Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Read OP for mod warnings before posting*

So if the Georgian asylum seekers who were accepted in their droves had of been processed quicker they wouldn't have been approved? What changes does say 18 months vs say 2 month's in the review of the application?

Is it time to review applications From the last 10 years and issue deportations because it sounds like the majority wouldn't have been accepted if it was quicker.

Good. So you're now finally aware that there's no legal hindrance on us limiting the number of refugees should we choose to do so. Another regular misunderstanding here you should also be aware of is that the Convention doesn't have a body that monitors compliance. The UNHCR has supervisory responsibilities but cannot enforce the convention, and there is no formal mechanism for individuals to file complaints. The Convention specifies that complaints should be referred to the ICJ but no state has every done this.

In summary, it's in our own hands.

It’s daft and it’s hard to see how Ireland can ever have a prospering leader economy and a functional housing market at the same time while this goes on.
If the economy is going well there is no barrier to people from far larger countries coming.

Not suggesting we leave the EU but we should be fighting for a fairly commonsense reform.

Well over a thousand marching in Carrickmacross tonight, great to see.

Someone you don't know knocks on your door. Bread and water.

I saw various posts and videos, saying between one and two thousand. Great turnout, well done all.

I see this charming individual addressed the crowd. Last weekend a rapist, this weekend a racist.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/councillor-breached-ethics-act-with-racist-dangerous-election-material-1.4769552

An Independent councillor in Co Monaghan breached the Ethics in Public Office Act because of election material complainants said was “racist, dangerous and xenophobic”, an inquiry has found.

The statements were “deliberate and considered and were designed to pit one group of the community against another,” an inquiry has found.

In recent years, there has been a notable increase in the number of Georgian citizens seeking asylum in Ireland. In 2022, over 2,700 people from Georgia sought asylum in Ireland, and in the first eight months of that year, almost 1,800 Georgians arrived seeking international protection, a significant increase compared to the previous year. As of July 2023, 3,432 Georgian citizens were residing in asylum seeker accommodation shelters in Ireland, representing the largest group of asylum seekers from any country. They had a very high success rate too.

It was when I seen Georgians and Nigerians topping our list I realised the system was broken. This excludes Ukrainians who we took a disproportionate amount compared to other western and EU nations on average.

Criminal Assets Bureau just entered the chat.

Anyone here that says it's not happening is a fool, that probably lives in a nice place we'll away from reality, I work for a transport company and never seen so many people coming in ,usually is a crew of 5 men ,they don't like attention that's 5 crew's a day ,been like that for at least 5 years, countrys down the toilet, when I retire we are leaving the land that I love ,shame on the government and Ali the greedy fuckers that ruined a beautiful Island.

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You are the only one performing mental gymnastics claiming that it was only attended by the population of Carrick. One of the people who addressed the march is from Monaghan Town, one of the people filming it is from Donegal.
Are you comfortable with the fact that one of the people who addressed the march is a proven racist?

This is bizarre to continually question the protest numbers. The Dublin one wasn't a big enough percent, maybe now they were not Dubs so it doesn't count. The Monaghan one is also now questioned as nobody collected each eircode to confirm residency. Another peaceful protest and they will keep coming.

The mood has definitely changed in the room and continuing to ignore this will lead to a rise of a more dangerous individual who will feel enabled to cause trouble when peaceful means are ignored. We saw exactly this for the water protests.

For years the far right were on the march and we were being told to be afraid of the ground swell of support they had.

Now there's peaceful anti immigration protests, anyone involved is a far right thug but we shouldn't be alarmed because there's not as many people in those marches as there are in marches for Palestine or something.

You need to keep limber in order to keep up with the mental gymnastics that go on around these issues.

Some of us prefer to stick to facts. Any comment on the fact that the march this week was addressed by a recognised racist while the march last week was addressed by a convicted rapist?

I'm not saying he's right but Micheal Martin would have fairly good inside information on the issue so his estimates are likely to be taken seriously. But the key point is that whether you agree with him or not, his estimate of the percentage of asylum seekers who are really economic migrants and the asylum rejection rate refer to different things.

The asylum rejection rate does not tell you the number who might fraudulently get through the system, and nor does it tell you the number who might be unfairly rejected. So it is not a good guide to the percentage who are economic migrants.