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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,907 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Lord Vetinari. "My motives, as ever, are entirely transparent." Hughnon reflected that 'entirely transparent' meant either that you could see right through them or that you couldn't see them at all.
    — Terry Pratchett



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,476 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Is that correct? I thought it was a flat fee ($100) or 120% tariff for low value packages? Presumably most would pick the cheapest option. So that import tax would be $3.60



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,590 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Some delivery services are not going to handle the package unless the flat fee is paid.

    Makes sense for very small items, the paperwork involved would cost more to process than the actual worth of the package.

    They are going from a situation where nothing is checked to reams of paperwork …..for a set of batteries.😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    I'm not going to say I know what this will be like for an American, but I know what it is like to live in Vietnam without Amazon etc., and without access to global goods at decent prices. There are companies here who organise shipping from around the world, and I pay a fee to get those goods shipped to me reliably because they have their ways to make it work. It simply makes things outside of everyday living that come from abroad very expensive.

    It will stifle consumerism in America if it is anything like I experience here. I want to buy a handheld gaming console that was $900 in America, but $1400 here. Or around $1100 if I do it through one of those agents. That console is now $1100 in the US and likely more in the future.

    I don't know how to express it properly but the sustained feeling of high prices and lack of goods because of reasons like tariffs or just a lack of access to a market is overbearing. It's my least favourite thing about living in Vietnam. I climb, so I buy climbing goods. I have those things shipped from the UK, Germany, and America, and I pay way more than anyone in those countries pay. America is about to face this sort of shock and it's not going to be pretty. Their entire way of life is going to get more expensive. If everyone feels it, it's going to be profound. I only feel it for some things. They will experience it for a lot of things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,400 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    You don't get to pick, the $100 is the minimum customs charge regardless of the package value. Otherwise people would still be ordering $1 junk because the tariff would only add about $1.25.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,334 ✭✭✭trashcan


    I think his good buddy Vladimir might like to have a word about WW2 as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,590 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    One persons junk is another persons essential item. A carpenter getting bags of screws and tools will be badly affected by this.

    Or a mother on minimum wage getting a 5 pack of t-shirts from Shein to clothe her family.

    Millions of other examples where it's not junk. Its essentials.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,056 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I get the point you're making, but when you put it into context of what's normally expected by the public in America of their "commander in chief", dodging the draft isn't one of them.

    When you also add context of him disrespecting the troops (not attending ceremonies, saying he only respects those soldiers not caught by the enemy etc) it understandably makes it even worse.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    I would argue that a country shouldn't have those ideals instilled in them in first place and the President shouldn't be required to have supported its military's actions in the past. Like what, every US president should support the Vietnam war.. There's no room for progress with that mindset.

    Like I get it, people fought for your country. But America hasn't faced an actual military threat in centuries. They have a military which has for decades largely served solely to protect American interests. WWII ended a very long time ago. Everything since has been by choice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,056 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    You're arguing about what should be the case, and I don't necessarily disagree with you, but the reality is something different.

    The facts are he dodged the draft, while disrespecting those that did their time.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,400 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Call it what you like, junk, tat, widgets, essentials.... The point I was making was the customer doesn't get to choose either to pay a $100 duty charge or the tariff %. It's a minimum duty charge of $100. Import a sock from China valued at $1 and you pay a $100 flat duty charge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    its scary to think about a world without Donald Trump as president



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,937 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Also, i wouldnt class Trump as a conscientous objector. He didnt dodge the draft as he thought the war was wrong, he dodged it as the army is/was cannon fodder to be populated by the poor, not people like him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,848 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    But isn't that the whole point?

    America is way too focus on consuming things. And if everyday Americans have to get their essentials from the other side of the world, isn't that a bit ridiculous? It's exploiting essentially slave labour in the Global South as well as helping burn fossil fuels because essential goods are being bought from another hemisphere of the globe in insanely high numbers

    Trump said that instead of a kid having 30 dolls, maybe they'll have 2 dolls at a higher price per doll

    That sounds like a step in the right direction for a country with a warped sense of consumerism. Would probably do them good to be more considerate about what they buy. And anything that hurts a predatory companies like Amazon and Walmart is a good thing (I take the point about small businesses being affected too, but I think Walmart and Amazon have been fúcking them over even more in the past decade)

    People are talking as if it's a bad thing to reduce consumer spending on the likes of Temu, Shein and Amazon! And that it's a good thing to get you essentials from the other side of the globe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,946 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    They're coming from China wherever they buy them or whatever they cost. Also a lot of Americans just can't afford retail prices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Trump intends to attack any university that does not follow new guidelines about protests under the guise of protecting Jewish students from anti Semitic protestors He is willing to take away universitys tax exempt status. alot of universitys rely on donations to find new buildings and pay for staff and research grants

    Universitys don't have to pay tax as they provide scholarships for low income students and fund research to that is of great benefit to the public like research on new vaccines or medical treatments



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭thereiver


    I,m not in favor of trumps tariffs but I don't like some people who go on podcasts and say they buy everything online I think it's better to support local shops even if it's more expensive than temu



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭briany




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭arctictree


    What's to stop someone in Ireland/EU repackaging temu orders and sending on to customers in the US?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,946 ✭✭✭✭kneemos




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭pad406




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,007 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    Trump is a total nutcase. A psychiatrist would have a field day with him.

    One day he wan't Canada to be come the 51st state, then he wants to annex Greenland, the next time he wants to be the Pope.

    Tariffs one day, no tariffs the next day.

    Trump needs to have his head examined.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Exactly. I remember Trump repeatedly railing against consumption culture during the recent election.

    If he said it once, he said it a thousand times. People need to buy less and accept that prices will rise.

    Come on. Trump is not advocating for any of that. The man is literally the embodiment if conspicuous consumption. Tariffs are the win all do everything idea. They will bring in billions from the tariffs while also ending imports as all factories will return which will bring new jobs at high wages but no prices will rise and no inflation.

    Trumps tariffs are nothing more than Trump using the power of the US to be the ultimate bully. He said it himself. He had loads of countries kissing his ass.

    That's it. The full extent of his thoughts on tariffs. It has nothing to do with prices, consumption, standards or anything



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Let's not forget all the wars that started when he wasn't . But sure that's ok isn't it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,725 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    There still hasn't been any detail on the many (extraordinarily high speed) trade agreements he has been making. Reuters mention 15 to 18 deals being discussed, with India a possible first - wasn't there mention of 200 agreements being made?

    https://www.reuters.com/world/one-first-us-trade-deals-will-be-with-india-treasurys-bessent-says-2025-04-28/

    (Link is not opening correctly, c/p)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,877 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I used the word "misuse" as he used the pardon power to "free" a person who was actually convicted in court of wire fraud for her own personal benefit, not some-one who committed a criminal act which was, or would be, of personal political benefit to him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,420 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    You were being serious? Really? I assumed sarcasm or fishing for a response from others with that first attempt.

    Even to address that one point, trump's made the world much more dangerous than it ever was under Biden, mostly through sheer and utter stupidity. Biden would never have instigated and immediately lost a trade war with China.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,877 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Some-one in his team may have planted a terrible idea in Trump's head or he may have had an original thought all by himself. It's possibly linked to the mention a few days ago of the US military being used close to the US/Mexico border and given permission to take control of territory, civil and other, close to the border. Some years back, the president declared some of the Mid-East groups as military combatants after 9/11.

    It seems Trump has the idea in his head of declaring the smuggling gangs to be "enemy combatants" which could allow him to deploy the US military against them directly. Some people seem to have mentioned that it could amount to a break of the Posse Comitatus federal law act which prevents the use of US military for civil law enforcement.

    Post edited by aloyisious on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Ah dangerous as in the economy and not children being blown up by bombs from unnecessary wars. Gotcha



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,420 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    You mean the larger bombs trump supplied Israel to "finish the job" ?



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