Kneecap - New Footage

do we think that freedom of speech is something we should strive for?

i think the us is the only country that has it enshrined in their constitution

The US don't have free speech. They love to say they do. Have you heard they are the best country in the world!?!

Trying criticising Israel in the US and see how free your speech is!

Freedom of speech is important but when it infringes on supporting terrorists or asking to kill your local MP, then it's far from absolute

It is quite ironic these idiots supporting Hamas, a terrorist group that has done so much harm to the Gaza people but nope lets blame Israel for everything.

Hamas' actions were not "scummy" - they were crimes against humanity.
As for "babies in ovens", I think that's almost certainly not true. I didn't actually notice you asking me that question specifically, but as I said it's not relevant anyway.

Hamas did more than enough to justify a military response. And if you're going to cherry pick which parts of my posts you reply to, and ignore the reasons I gave to show why Israel, unlike Hamas, had a legal justification for their actions, there's no point in me replying in detail to your questions.

I will point out though that several other groups used Coachella to make statements in favour of Palestine and against Israel, like Green Day and Darkside. Saint Levant said at last year's Coachella that Israel was committing genocide. Pretty sure there were others.

None of them - not one - has had gigs cancelled nor had calls for them to apologise. Why not?

Oh wait - none of them expressed support for Hamas, and none of them were roaring about "dead tories" being a good thing.

Because this isn't about Gaza.

And the number of posters on here, and people in the Irish media, who are conflating that support for Hamas with support for Gazans just proves that a lot of the so-called support for Gaza is actually support for Hamas. Because even when people like the Kneecap guys come right out and say it openly, still some people in Ireland support them.

When someone tells you who they are, believe them.

It would be extremely damaging to Irelands reputation, and a very poor reflection of Ireland, if everyone in Ireland were Racists like Kneecap, and supported the murder of innocent, democratically elected English politicians.

Imagine if a group from N.Ireland were dressing up as paramilitaries, and called for their followers to murder TDs, especially if there was a history of TDs having being attacked and murdered on a regular basis? The UK has has quite a lot of MPs murdered, just as the USA has had many politicians attacked and shot at etc : they do not need Kneecap to throw fuel on the fire. Kneecap are attacking democracy itself. The democracy we have in the western word is not perfect but is a lot better than in the areas controlled by Hamas and Hezbollah : or indeed most if not all muslim majority countries. Careful what you wish for Kneecap: you will never get invited to play in a music festival in a Muslim majority country, never mind to Hezbollah and Hamas, despite your support for them.

People don’t believe their half-assed apology was sincere. For obvious reasons. Like a guy apologising in court for his crime - he’s sorry he got caught is all.

Care to discuss why none of the other groups got into trouble for talking about Gaza, Palestine or Israel? Poor Kneecap, eh? There must be a conspiracy against them.

They'll be fine. The same as most other people who were cancelled by the woke left.

Now it's the hypocritical right putting the pressure on.

And that's completly irrelevant the reason why it's happening is they said it. Don't tell a crowd to kill their local mps and then there won't be videos of it.

It's not about outrage. They called for politicians to be killed. If its OK for them to call for the killing of politicians does that mean that it is OK for anyone to publicly call for any politician to be killed!? If not, why not and who decides when it is OK to call for the killing of politicians?

Did she then say after Kill your local MP?

Absolutely not. But she didn't say the same thing as kneecap so it's arguing in bad faith. Did she tell people to kill their local mps?

To be edgy! You don't get the context man. (I jest)

South of the border the last politician killed here was a protestant F.G. man killed by Ira / Republicans in the seventies?

And recently Mary Lou McD was threatened online by a man in his bedroom ; she demanded he get prosecuted and he got a 3.5 year jail sentence.

Correct, why were they not asked to explain themselves on rte instead of their manager, who continually deflected to Gaza this, Gaza that.

They clearly don’t have a credible explanation -maybe they got carried away in moment - maybe they wished to mess with the audience heads and say controversial things and seeing if the audience went for it- which apparently they did.

Who knows.