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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,590 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    So the stock market which was still going up during the last few months of Biden's term, went up when Trump took office because of Trump, but then dropped sharply any time Trump announced his tariffs on Canada & Mexico before rising again when he put a temporary pause on them and tanked again almost the exact second Trump announced his sweeping tariffs on "Liberation Day", is actually all because of Biden who hasn't been President in over 3 months?

    What a f*cking loon…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Suckler


    The Democrats are asleep at the wheel. Maybe they have some great plan for the midterms or the next election who knows.

    I don't even think there's a plan; I think they live in hope that someday Trump will do something so outrageous the public outcry will be a wave they can ride. The problem is, as you said, the slow boil will have the populace conned before they can be too vocal. As long as those who are deemed 'different' are being targeted, there's a sizeable population that will continue to excuse everything else going on.

    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Communist
    Then they came for the Socialists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Socialist
    Then they came for the trade unionists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a trade unionist
    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew
    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,768 ✭✭✭threeball


    Does Chicago still do the firework display every saturday on Navy pier or has that disappeared with Trumps 145% price hike



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,659 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The narrative that it's all on the Democrats is just a symptom of the problem though. It's much bigger than which of the two morally putrescent parties is running the show. The French don't look to some party to oppose the government, they do it themselves.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭eire4


    The summer could well be very interesting to see what happens when the effects of the tariffs such as you mention above start to bite and the peak summer tourism trade is also well down.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,590 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Was seeing that it's already starting to hit Las Vegas pretty hard, which is almost entirely a tourism-based economy. Tourism, visitors, hotel bookings etc all down around 5% from last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭eire4


    Its basically another Mexico will pay for the wall moment utter rubbish but his deluded and hate filled cult will swallow it right after they get done with the bleach!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,653 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    conservatives in general and American conservatives in particular just want someone to blame. They don’t really care for much else out of trump, he blames Biden the media the liberal left foreigners anyone for anything. They don’t want to blame themselves for any ills in their country and he gives them someone to blame for everything. That’s all they want



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭Champagne Sally


    I am currently watching Hitler's Circle of Evil on Netflix. It's chilling really, the comparisons that can be made to USA today. Only thing is that Goebbels the master of propaganda, absolute evil and lunatic bas***d, that he was, was very intelligent, don't know if the same could be said for the sycophants surrounding Trump today. Very good documentary, would highly recommend if you haven't seen it yet.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭eire4


    For sure places like that and Florida will be hit harder by the fall in tourism.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,659 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The thing with NASDAP was that Hitler was an incredibly lazy man. Like, he never rose before noon. What that created was a power vacuum in which various horrible people such as the aforementioned Goebbels and one Hermann Goring jostled for power and advancement. This created incentives for ever more extreme policies and actions.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,712 ✭✭✭yagan


    All that tells me is that they'll boast about having the best civil wars.

    I don't mean to be glib, but they'll crater their civil society after they've catered their economy.

    It will be mad max territory but at least they've got their f150s and guns to doing at eachother. Their civilisation nodes will be around oil refineries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Both Florida and Nevada state rely on sales tax for their income, it accounts for 75% of it's income as they don't have income tax. They will be limited in what they can do to raise revenue if there's a drop in tourist spending their money.

    I've a feeling it's going to be all these little things that will just compound with each other over time to cause serious issues in the US. All the stats on their own ain't too bad, but put them all together it's like a death by a thousand cuts.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,659 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The English have the best civil wars but that's besides the point.

    I think they've already cratered said civil society. It was constructed and consolidated amid perpetual immigration and booms. Now that the economy isn't doing so well, the cracks and the lack of a safety net are much more obvious. If the state isn't going to look after millions of people when they need it then said people will wonder what the point of the state is.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Good point - Also , the Sales tax is applied to the retail price so the $10 thing that costs $10.75 at the till with ~7.5% sales tax will take a larger hit post tariffs. Maybe the increase will offset the Tourist losses??

    The retails price will now pop to ~$25 with 145% tariff and THEN you pile on the sales tax on that too.

    Consumers in States with sales tax are going to get hit a little harder than those in States without.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭Champagne Sally


    Indeed Capaill, and apparently he would have everyone for dinner and rant on in monologues until 3 or 4am keeping everyone else up. Typical narcissist. Also let's not forget Himmler, the genocidal maniac. I could never understand before why the germans just fell for the propaganda, but watching this and seeing what Goebbels did, it all makes sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭Bocadilloo


    Here we go again, another press conference with all the stooges getting their speak in.

    As close to a cult as you will ever see, it's exhausting trying to watch what these morons do to the stock market next.

    Their plan for more air traffic controllers? Increase the retirement age to keep them on, I kid you not... What could go wrong in a high stress role? Would you be happy with 70 somethings monitoring several dozen flights coming in constantly???

    It's not agist, but that role should have an early retirement age, not the other way round



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    It's too early to really see the tariffs impact as companies have stocked up and most items from China would be nonperishable.

    If companies want to keep their profit margins then yes the tariff will be compounded throughout the supply chain. But a 10c widget bought from China and sold for $5 retail, there's a hefty profit margin there for the retailer to absorb/cushion the tariff.

    It's really only when the tariffed goods (or lack of goods) starts hitting the shelves that you will see the impact.

    You only have to look at the impact covid and the Russian invasion had with the supply chain/input costs to see how quickly inflation can rise.... The US is going to see both at once!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,926 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Didn't he say Biden was hiring people with severe mental and psychiatric disabilities as traffic controllers?

    No issue with older folk that may with the best will be suffering forgetfulness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,166 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Mark Carney takes **** with more integrity and intelliegence than the Orange Buffon and his brains trust.

    I really hope he schools the US in economics.

    Oh Canada....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    He did, a common misconception of the whole DEI policy. It doesn't mean you have to choose a blind bus driver over an able body one or each air traffic control center has to have 1 of each person of disability etc...

    Anyways the war on woke, DEI and trans is over, we're now into the tariff wars. Lord knows what's next.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Trump said last year the stock market was going so well because the market assumed Trump was going to be president. Now he’s saying the economy has tanked due to Biden even though it’s 4 months since he took over? And MAGA lap it up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,744 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Oh I agree. The American people need to stand up and start shouting now.

    The Ironic thing is you can see ever time thst Trump leaves a speech his head is down he does not look in anyway confident and he is probably thinking I hope that works and that keep following me or I am in big sh!it. I actually think Putin or someone really does have something very bad on him and he is just doing this for them but secretly hates it and himself for it.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Credit to sky for going though all his bullshit:

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    I wouldn't be surprised in 2028, 3 years into the great US depression, he's still blaming Biden. As blind as the MAGA crowd are, I'd say every day more and more become disillusioned with him.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It doesn't matter what he says , they will "lap it up" regardless.

    What he says doesn't matter to them as long as he is being cruel to the "others" so they can feel a little better about their sh!tty little dead-end lives , they will follow him anywhere.

    As someone else said earlier in the thread - All they want is someone to blame and someone to look down on (and for them to be put down as well).

    They are actually too far gone to be able to think logically about the things that might actually improve their lot - As long as someone else has it worse than them and "their guy" is the reason for that , they are happy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,712 ✭✭✭yagan


    Well the US grew on the belief in the right of the individual over society, the right to pursue happiness etc...

    That worked as long as poor immigrants could grasp opportunity, they kept adding to the pyramids base.

    The pyramid is collapsing so what's to keep the franchise together?

    If the individual is frustrated and no longer content with the status quo then something is going to give.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    I said this yesterday, but this seems to be the latest thing going around social media and as someone who lives in vegas, I'm just not seeing it yet. Monday was the 3rd busiest day at the airport ever and everywhere is still packed. I know for a fact that in at least one of the big casino companies, earnings are up this year and hotel occupancy is still close to 100%, and is 100% at some properties. The state took in over a billion dollars in gaming tax just in March, and most of that is vegas. Also last year the super bowl was here so obviously bookings, spending etc will be a drop compared to that. If anything is putting people off it's the ridiculous charges like parking and resort fees as well as the extortionate cost of food and drinks on the strip but we will see how things go. I'm not looking forward to what the effects of a recession might be, certainly not wishing it on like some seem to be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,712 ✭✭✭yagan


    Id imagine domestically a lot of trips were planned in advance, a clearer sign would be a slowdown in future bookings.

    Although if people are pulling back foreign travel then maybe LV and Florida will mop up some of that deferred travel. How did Vegas do in 08/09?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    I wasnt here then but I've heard it was pretty bad, one of the worst hit cities. I hope we aren't heading for a similar situation



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