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Kneecap - New Footage

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    The Beatles were “bigger than Jesus”- by your reckoning, kneecap are now bigger than the Beatles🤪

    I’ll say one thing, your posts are great fun 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,982 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I don't remember the Beatles supporting terrorists or telling people to kill politicians

    It's not a good look and they could find many doors in the industry closing on them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Bizarre the number of posters here rejoicing in the cancellation of a handful of gigs or visa restrictions meanwhile Israel, while slaughtering children, starving people, robbing land and homes, continues to participate in all sporting events, cultural events etc with the full support of the most vocal shills against the band, laughable!!

    Same old story though, friends of Western Imperialism and colonialism get to do as they wish - human rights, international law matter little. Few lads here seem to have got their moral compass caught up in the darker ends of their orifices.

    Hopefully the Glastonbury organisers don't buckle,if they perform there they should go to town on Starmer and Copper at it....really expose those vile 'leaders' for the compliant genocidists that they are..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Music film and art that have got banned through the years tend to be pretty darn good in the first instance.


    Frankie Goes to Hollywood were banned from performing on TOTPs I think for their “explicit” lyrics which was farcical even back then- but they were popular nevertheless before the ban- and that album was bloody brilliant and sold millions along with all the t shirts and paraphernalia that also sold well.

    Life of Brian was successful at the box office even though some countries and UK councils banned it- but I think it would have been successful anyway at the time- I think getting banned helped its longevity in the video market, especially in Ireland where it was seen as forbidden fruit by teenagers watching it for the first time.

    The Kinks were banned from America in the mid 60s for brawling with a TV show presenter - they were already successful but this ban prevented their attempt to conquer America - but I don’t believe kneecap are anywhere near the standard The Kinks were.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    If it was going to make them more money they wouldn't be trying to backtrack and have their manager going on TV trying to defend them. Why would you do that unless you knew you had just fcuked up and it was hurting you financially.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Looks like the manager Lambert is the organ grinder,got the morons in kneecap to mouth off but was very careful with his choice of words.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    Seems overly simplistic to say this is going to make the more money. Especially considering it is well known live gigs is now by far and away musicians main revenue earning capacity. Sure they have got more famous but a number of gigs have been cancelled and has the potential for more. Their music probably has a bit of a limit of audience numbers anyway , they weren't going to break the US market. If i had to guess I'd say this will definitely hurt their earning capacity - possibly evidenced by them releasing their statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,195 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    What has happened to Kneecap is that there mask has slipped and their support physical force republicanism has been revealed.

    Troubles "nostalgia" is a common thing now a days, so a group of guys with a name based on a troubles era punishment beating, wearing something associated with troubles era, and having that balaclava feature the emblem on one of the sides of the conflict are going to have a certain amount of popularity, especially with people who don't remember or were not born during the troubles.

    But it was equally unpopular with people who would have been on the other side of the conflict.

    A kid from a unionists background would not be endeared to a guy singing in Irish wearing a tricolour balaclava

    And all that was fine and well when they were winning awards and promoting the Irish language etc.

    But behind all the paraphernalia these guys were fans of the old days of physical force republicanism.

    And on a November night, when they were yet to be very famous, in an obscure club, the mask slipped.

    They were energized by the crowd and the fun of it all, and they started speaking from the heart.

    We know that the Palestinian cause is popular among republicans in NI, and many see the IRA etc as bothers in arms with Palestinian fighters, thus the shouts support for Hamas etc from Kneecap.

    And we all know that the Tory party were a traget of violent republicans in the past, thus the kill a Tory MP shouts.

    It all came flooding out in the frenzy of that night.

    Coachella was different, the Free Palestine stuff was well planned to make a point, there was no mention of terrorism.

    But in November 2023 it was the adrenaline of the night that showed us exactly what Kneecap are all about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    The Sex Pistols would have just told everyone to fck off - how times have changed that bands now hide behind a press release



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭TokTik


    I see a lot of people, laughably, claiming that they’ll cash in as their steams are hitting 1m this month after the controversy. I don’t think just over 2k a month is going to sustain them once tax, recording fees, management fees, travel etc is factored in.

    How much do 1 million Spotify streams pay?

    “So, 1000 streams would be around $2.38, and 100,000 streams would be $238, and 1,000,000 streams would be $2380.”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,158 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Nor am I surprised that you didn't address the point. It's what you usually do ie accuse someone of deflecting while deflecting yourself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,830 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    I’d agree with this other than the standing up for their beliefs bit.

    As the financial reality starts to bite, they are desperately trying to walk back what they said.

    I’ve no doubt they’re big fans of Hamas but they don’t have the balls to stand by what they said

    It’s too late for them now though. They can look forward to playing festival tents in Ireland to the pissed up barstool brigade.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,982 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    There are a lot of far away conflicts in the world where millions are suffering and affected - what's bizarre is that some individuals are only airing selective "concern" about one of those conflicts.

    If this band wants to latch onto that whole thing, fine, more power to them, but it's the whole supporting of terrorists which is getting them in hot water.

    The Dixie Chicks went up against Bush but they didn't start supporting Al Qaeda.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    Disrespecting the big man Jesus was a big deal and not a good look. I think they got passed that ok. Kneecap might not turn out to be widely successful, mainly because their music is crap but being 'banned' will help them no end. Like the resurgence The Wolfe Tones had, if people didn't get so angry about them they would be long retired before their successful farewell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Is their credibility as Hamas supporting cheerleaders not enhanced and buttressed by their approval of the assassinstion of British MPs?

    We know what their characters are and that of their supporters .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Bad few weeks for the Irish image abroad, McGregor,kneecap and the far left Irish troublemakers in Berlin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭BP_RS3813


    Certain things should be left without politics(international incidents/conflicts). Music, sport, television etc.

    Olympics went ahead in nazi germany in '36. Don't see why bands nowadays can't see past inserting their political/humaniterian views into their work/public life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,670 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    Looks like they folded the minute they were going to lose any actual money. You really think that's brave of them?

    They've apologised - and made their fans as unhappy as the MPs' families. Because the fans love to hear that the only good Tory is a dead Tory. And "Up Hamas!" too. Took zero bravery to shout that during their concerts. "Brave" would have been either apologising properly, or standing by their beliefs. Turns out they're not brave enough to do either.

    Of course. Bunch of populist cowards.

    ”I enjoy cigars, whisky and facing down totalitarians, so am I really Winston Churchill?” (JK Rowling)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,158 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    1. Two innocent MP's were murdered in the UK and these idiots were encouraging people to kill more politicians.

    I have already commentated on the wrongdoing of this band in my first post. Their comments were idiotic and dangerous, What Israel is doing is actually murdering thousands and had they just stuck with calling this fact out they would have been better off.

    2. As for Hamas and Hezbollah, they aren't even denying what they said about supporting them.

    Supporting any organisation that murder people is wrong. This includes Israel. A lot of ''concerned'' posters on here back Israel and show a lot of fake outrage here. How they are angry with one and not the other is truly baffling.

    3. Also worth noting that the widower and daughter of the two MP's who were murdered basically told them to stuff their half-hearted apology.

    I'd probably have done the same.

    I am against any kind of violence regardless of the quarter it comes from unlike a lot of posters on this thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭amandstu


    They are entitled to express their opinions ,political or otherwise.

    But there are consequences for what we may say in a public setting.

    I think we should pay attention to what were outrageous calls - essentially an attack on civil society in the ⁰form of words.

    I wonder if they were under the influence?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,976 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    This is what happens when you dare to call out Israeli genocide and US & UK facilitation of that genocide - that is the only reason their comments from years ago were dug up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,975 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    As I see it hey're kind of caught between two stools.

    After their snivelling apology they will have to stop mouthing off and they lose credibility with followers.

    They never had any to lose with the wider public who don't appreciate support for terror groups and killing politicians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭noc1980


    Their days of festivals are over. They are now radioactive and no promoter will want to risk alienating sponsors by putting them on the bill. They're one of the best examples you'll find of victims of their own success. Nobody would know of them if they weren't edgy and controversial and that's also what finished them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Randycove


    But openly supporting the genocidal regimes of Hamas and Hezbollah and calling for people to be murdered is ok?



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Theres no real "genocidal" claims against Hamas and Hezbollah - however multiple agencies have accused Israel of genocide.

    While Hamas may have genocidal intentions they will never be in a position to carry out those intentions where as Israel is actively committing genocide as we speak.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    ”Fans” will now have to just listen to their music- god luv them 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,063 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Doesn't really look like it.

    There's been 3 or 4 gigs cancelled so far. And they have found other venues in those places. Mainly Germany as they are shite bags when it comes to Nazi Israel.

    All American gigs still on, shows that weren't sold out are completely sold out now. Pending visa of course.

    It was the DUP and other Unionist parties dragging up those old videos and spouting their usual bullshit like they've been doing to them since day 1. They just timed it perfectly with the Coachella controversy.

    I'm sure they care for Palestinians but the republican side of it is all part of the act.

    Still some stupid stuff said.

    Fairview gig is going to be epic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    I compleltly agree!! But who do you think it is faults for having the comments there to be dug up? Lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭MFPM


    That's speculative hyperbole and nothing more.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭MFPM


    You mean Von Derleyen, Macron, Starmer, Scholz, Rutte et al do you?

    The above leaders all support terrorism too, have you heard any condemnation from them of the killing of 60+ innocent migrants by the US in their terrorist attacks in Yemen? Nah, not a peep.



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