Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Grazing 2025

12346

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,357 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Ya I have previously done it. I might not get many out of what I have but often killed 10 ish of them. However I would have these out sine late February and feed from mid April. Ko varies depending on the animal. You would hit the price before it drops which compensates for the difference in weight traditionally. Winter grading is usually still set on the machines so it can be easier even though winter FS is harder to achieve

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭joe35


    Hi all. Attached is my soil sample results.

    All ground already got a bag of protected urea to the acre. I'm to tight on grass. What should I be spreading and how to you calculate type of fert to apply.

    I know I need lime on a small bit, buth this is only 2 small plots up on the side of a mountain. A lime spreader wouldn't get up to them fields. Might get a bag of granulated lime out on them, or I might spread some with a shovel and scoop of the tractor.

    Thanks for any advice

    Post edited by joe35 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭green daries


    You only have your lime results up there get the rest of your report



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    How long of a rotation are you doing on fields lads?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭grass10


    Put out can 1 bag per acre and forget about urea and you'll grow plenty grass and lime every 4 to 5 years



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,521 ✭✭✭Comic Book Guy


    Off topic lads but is there a time limit for cutting silage after spreading fertiliser that doesn't contain Nitrogen?

    Applied 0:7:30 5 weeks ago to a reseeded field of red clover silage I put in last year. Decent crop in place, was thinking of cutting it next week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭Young95


    is ground gone to hard again to spread fertilizer or would you spread away ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    spread away. Bits of rain falling over the next week. Ideal time with the growth taking off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Tileman


    think we hit magic day here. Grass jumping out of the ground.
    gone from very tight and spreading fertiliser last week to grass jumping out of the ground this week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,560 ✭✭✭Sami23




  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭Conversations 3


    Hey, I tested my silage fields on Tuesday for sugars and nitrates.

    One field didn't get grazed fully in spring and had nitrate level of 332mg/l.

    Ideally it should be below 100mg/l.

    With the scorching weather at the moment and good outlook for the next 10 days, will it drop much?

    Aiming to cut the 15th, will probably test again to be sure it's safe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭limo_100


    According to farm theroy id doesn't matter if there is some nitrogen in the grass he just cuts when it suits. Last year I done my second cut a bit early as the weather was good I didn't wait the correct amount of weeks and stuff was perfect no issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭limo_100


    what is the sweet spot in terms of silage quality If silage was cut now in the next week I would expect dmd to be at 80% but if its that high I was told I would have to feed straw with it as there would be no fibre in it and it will run through the cattle. Would 75% to 78% dmd be the best silage overall? trying to cut down on feeding meal feeding levels over the winter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Silage will be black if the nitrogen hasn’t been used up. A good wilt in the sun will sort it out if nitrogen not fully used up.
    All depends what you are feeding it to. If stores and weanlings it’s as important to have it dry as have the dmd high. Had 72 dmd for first cut last year and 79 for second cut. They ate it all up the same and complained about none of it.
    All the good silage in the world won’t make up for not getting cattle out early in the spring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭Who2


    I cut too early last year when there was a good spell for a couple of days and I won’t be doing it again. I’d silage going black not that long after opening and just wasn’t happy with it. 72dmd or above and reasonably dry and I’m happy enough here . Trying to get 80dmd bales of soft grass for beef or sucklers is not required and doesn’t suit the same as a dairy cow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭limo_100


    left it down for 2days and stuff was great cattle went mad for it think it was 73 and 30dm. The silage you made at 79%dmd would you even need to supplement with that silage id imagine you would get 0.7-0.8kg daily gain



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Hershall


    Used to cut around June bank holiday changed to midddle or third week of May for a couple of years. Changed back to early June again as I thought it sweeter and Golden in colour. Just my own opinion......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭grass10


    I saw a couple of bailers in fields this morning starting baling which I think is madness just as grass is growing well your crop will bulk up massive in the next 3 weeks, I cannot figure out why you'd cut and bale soft wet grass like grass was this morning and then go out with expensive fertiliser next week to try and grow more grass when it should be left growing for another couple of weeks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,544 ✭✭✭endainoz


    This image will tell you about more, at least you'll be able to figure out your P and K indexs from this chart

    1000043766.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭Conversations 3


    Were they grazing paddocks gone strong or the actual silage?



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,357 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Personally I think there is a lot of craziness going on about getting high DMD. You are only hitting peak grass growing period at present. Unless you dud not graze off silage ground in March there will be virtually nothing in the meadows.

    I love to be cutting now I be getting very high DM. However it woukd be only 3-5 bales per acre if very dry. Silage is an e pensive crop to grow. There is about a fortnight at least of N left in my crops. I cut with 5-10 days left in May, 25th of May is my ideal date.

    Last year crop tested 65-75 DMD between 1st and second, I got it tested by two different entities free. DM on most of it was 40++. Stores did over 0.5kgs per day. According to the textbook it's all wrong.

    If you cut now you would want to be doing a 3 cut system. That is expensive sh!te and September silage will tend to be very low DM. Maybe if you have a lot if your own machinery and plenty of time on your hands as well as a liking for burning diesel, you could go ahead. I still k at what seems to work for me

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭grass10


    Silage. I think a lot of this madness is just to be boasting about how early they can cut silage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    I’d doubt it was first cut silage. Most likely ground that wasn’t grazed over the winter and got no fertiliser yet. It would get slurry and fertiliser now after cutting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭Who2


    I doubt it, I’ve fields that would do 4-6 bales at the moment that were cleared off not long back. It was a slow start but it’s bursting on now. Mine however won’t have used up the nitrogen for another week or two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Saw a few at it in Meath today. Would have been spread with fert in early March. If I hadn’t grazed my own it wouldn’t be far off cutting atm. Though I grazed it and will cut towards the end of the month.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭grass10


    Slurry put out in January fertiliser in February/ March these lads are only baling now because they see or hear someone else doing it they'll only get max 5 bales per acre but that doesn't matter to these lads

    I graze all silage ground in march close for silage and bale at earliest end of May or first week of June and always have minimum 10 fusion bales per acre and up to 15 bales per acre and never lower than mid 70 dmd and have tested silage made in July and have got almost 80 dmd and 30 dm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭morphy87


    I have never seen growth so good the past few days, I spread manure Wednesday and you can’t see the tracks now, the grass grew that amount



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,112 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    2018 was very similar, and we all know what followed, I reckon we are in for a dry



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭morphy87


    well I will take 18 over most of the years since, I had very little grass but my cattle never killed out aswell, there used to be dust in my face throwing meal into the troughs, compared to a foot of muck the past few years



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Bought a few store bullocks and let them out to grass the f*ckers went mad running into fences running through fences eventually they stopped running through the fences but kept running up to it and getting a stink the poor fuckers must have took a shook 10times or more each they started to settle a little in the evening but there hyper I think these have never being out to grass ever before there yearlings and id say they where kept in all year round. anyone come across this before? I have them in a fairly bare field but its surrounded with a 8-10k volt fence I didn't want to open the gate to let them into fresh grass until they settle.

    Also they have being squeezed but some of them have big bags how long can they take to go down look to be done maybe 6weeks some have done down.



Advertisement