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  • 24-04-2025 09:40AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48


    In January 2024 I sold a set of genuine Massey wheels to 3 guys that came to see them

    They were sold for 500 with 150 deposit left

    The guys were to come back the following week but never appeared or never contacted me.

    My calls were unanswered too

    Seeing I got the deposit I didnt sell the wheels or advertise them them again

    They were left on tractor in an open shed on out farm.

    Then on Tuesday I went down and the wheels were gone, tractor must have been jacked up and they were removed.

    Thing is nothing else was taken only the wheels and there several things there that would be easier to take than the wheels and more valuable

    I still have the guys name and know he is in Hacketstown so went down yesterday which is 2 half hour drive but no one there and eventually found it but I went out the back and saw his tractor and which look are my wheels and tyres on it

    So what should I do, I know if confronted they're going to deny all



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,886 ✭✭✭brian_t


    The guy paid a €150 deposit and then waited a year and three months before stealing them ?

    What did the Gardai say ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,724 ✭✭✭893bet


    sher you have to confront anyway; they might have chnages number, lost yours, showed up and you not there, etc etc.

    I would confront face to face and open with “I see you collected the wheels anyway, need to close out the payment so”

    In grand scheme it’s only 350 quid so make sure your response (and stress level is commensurate with the loss).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 jenalone


    Yes I know I will have to confront but wanted to know if theres anything I can do to help my case when I do confront them.

    Like not just about the money as they actually damaged a part on tractor when it was dropped back down with no wheels and they actually come to my place and stole the wheels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 jenalone


    Not interested as said it's a civil matter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭con747


    How did they explain theft was a civil matter because is that not in effect what they did? Either way, do you have any proof they are your's? Pictures from the advertisement when you were selling them?

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 jenalone


    Partly theirs because a deposit was given

    I dont have any proof as advert was deleted when I sold them as was holding them for them and coulld have sold them many times after that.

    They're my wheels for sure but I got nothing to prove it I'm afraid

    I dont know what to do as you try to be fair and hold on to them for them for a long time and then they come steal them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭con747


    So they trespassed on your property, took goods they didn't pay in full for and that's not classed as theft. Maybe some of the legal experts here might be able to clarify the situation a bit better.

    @Peregrinus Can you help clarify this?

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Or perhaps the guards are looking for an excuse to do nothing or pass the buck. Wouldn't be the first time in fairness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 jenalone


    Yes they didnt seem interested

    Before I go down again and confront him I just needed some advice as I know he going say he didnt take it and order me off his property or he say they paid me in full or some excuse.

    Even damaged the tractor in the process

    I should have sold them after 6 months as you try to do the right thing and this happens



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,430 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    I would say this is theft.

    In general, you don't secure ownership of something by payinga deposit on it; all you secure is the right to complete the purcahse of it at a later date, but ownership doesn't pass until you complete the purchase.

    So I would report this to the guards as theft.

    Having said that, if the wheels were taken by the people who paid the deposit, they can easily make it look like a dispute over ownership rather than a theft by, e.g., claiming that they paid the full amount, or that they tried but the OP refused, and refused to return their deposit, or some such story. And once they do say something like that the guards will likely say that this is a civil matter. Or, they will simply deny that the wheels they have came from the OP, in which case the guards will view this as a claim by the OP that he owns those wheels — again, a civil matter.

    Still, worth reporting, if only because the guards will mount some sort of investigation, which might throw up some evidence that the OP hasn't found — if nothing else,evidence confirming that the people who he thinks took the wheels did in fact take them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,218 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
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    I thought this story was going to finish with “and then the original buyers returned looking for their deposit back” .

    It’s mad the length of time between deposit taken and wheels taken- 14 months? I don’t understand why you just didn’t sell them on and text the person to come back and collect their deposit.

    It’s theft in my eyes- do you know anything about the character of this “purchaser”? It may be best to let sleeping dogs lye but I’d certainly be making a formal complaint to Gardai insisting that they treat this as a criminal matter and writing a letter of complaint if they don’t - it’s theft plain and simple



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