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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,429 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    She would.

    But then, the general public hadn't really heard of Professor Mary McAleese in 1997. And not too many more of Senator Professor Mary Robinson in 1990 either.

    And it is in the mould of those women that I'm thinking of Ní Ghrálaigh. The job of President is basically two-fold. To represent the people and the values of the people as Head of State. And to protect the Constitution from political interference and damage, and from incompatible legislative efforts. I can't really think of a better person to do both.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    She was a speaker at a forum on neutrality. So what?

    The company you keep in politics is pretty relevant. Anyone invited to partake in a "forum on neutrality" who sees Wallace, Daly and Galloway involved should decline or their entire judgement should be called into question.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,335 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I see. That's her only "crime"? Being in someone's company? What actions or speech content can you criticise? And yet Michael Lowry helped produce the programme for government and forced the FFG government to change Dail speaking rules to suit himself. That taints every single TD on government benches.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,933 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    She advocates for "peace at all costs" in Ukraine which she never expands on but is effectively "give Putin whatever he wants so people stop dying" now thats a lovely idea but its also a childishly naive attitude to have as well as being historically ignorant to how appeasement of belligerent murder mad dictators has gone previously.

    She is from the highly simplistic anti-nato camp of anything nato = bad and anything not-nato therefore = not bad



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    And yet Michael Lowry helped produce the programme for government and forced the FFG government to change Dail speaking rules to suit himself. That taints every single TD on government benches.

    I don't think you would argue against this point at all? Sure it does, therefore her actions taint her as well in your eyes surely?

    I can criticise her visiting Syria under the Assad regime, standing metres from torture dens doing photo ops, and then returning and saying the real problem is the sanctions is an action worthy of criticism.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,415 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    The "Forum on Neutrality" was a farce with an agenda of "stop giving Ukraine the means to defend themselves from aggression."

    There's also her visit to Syria to lend some PR to the Assad regime - where herself, Mick and Clare whitewashed over any criticism of Assad or of Russian involvement.

    And of course she actively campaigned for Daly in the 2024 European elections, despite the disgraceful actions and stances taken by Daly regarding Russia and Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,624 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Where specifically did she say "peace at all costs" for Ukraine please?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭its_steve116




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,933 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Ahh it seems i misread a paraphrasing of a speech she gave, she didnt actually say that, apologies.

    She does claim constantly to want peace through diplomacy but doesn't acknowledge that with people like putin that simply might not be possible therefore she logically, to me anyway, is asking for peace by appeasement as she insists on living in an alternate reality where Putin is open to real negotiations.

    She has also repeatedly pushed the false narrative that russia were open to peace in march of 2022 which was effectively just a russian demand for complete capitulation by Ukraine. Unsurprisingly she of course believes this as in 2023 Russia claimed at the time they were ready to declare p immediatelyeace if Ukraine simply renounced any future attempts to ever join Nato and as i previously stated with connolly its nato = bad and not-nato = not bad.

    Also she keeps trying to compare Ukraine and Gaza but is absolutely inconsistent in her demands of the aggressors in each conflict. She rightfully demands Israel stop all attacks on Gaza but when it comes to Ukraine she starts instead simply asking for diplomacy and while she does say Russia initially invaded illegally she infers both sides are at fault for the continued fighting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,624 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    So you put words in her mouth, using direct quotation marks, but she hadn't actually said that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,350 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Never heard of him and Google doesn't give me much.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,807 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    It's a question of poor judgement. Fanatics who hang around with the likes of Wallace etc do not have the depth of character needed to be President in the eyes of the voters. Brian Lenihan Snr. was a great example of this, his attempt to contact the president over the dissolution of the Dail ended his career. The voters understand that the President is there to defend the constitution and keep the Dail in line. And this is not theory, we have seen it with the arms crisis, Lenihen, Donegan etc.

    The referendum on the minimum age of the President was a good example of the voters understand of what is needed in that position and they have done a good job of picking a credible candidate over the past 100 years. And friends of Mick Wallace is not it.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,840 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I'm curious about his dual citizenship...

    Despite What Wikipedia (& Online News Media) Reports May Imply: Prof Dr Joseph Obi separately holds Citizenship(s) of (both) the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland.

    …and curious about his "Professor Doctor" title



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Archduke Franz Ferdinand


    lm sure he is , but l think he’s very uninspiring in a lot of ways tbh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Archduke Franz Ferdinand


    She knew she hadn’t a hope ld imagine. Not a popular person on a national level. Out of touch and more than a bit D4



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,335 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Can we get some links with quotes to prove what you are saying re Russia?

    For example.

    She had 3 minutes to make her speech and her first line was "I also reiterate my condemnation of the illegal invasion of the Ukraine". What did she say that you object to? She said the Ukraine people must determine the conditions for that peace.

    She is a very caring woman and absolutely abhors war and violence.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,335 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    @VinLieger

    On the 3rd anniversary of the Ukraine war, Connolly gave another speech in the Dail.

    She was given 3 minutes and her first line included "the illegal invasion of Russia on Ukraine". She went on to talk about the 12 million displaced and ongoing slaughter.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,335 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I wouldn't have adviser her to visit Syria with Wallace/Daly but there were 15 other people on the trip including some who had been involved in the Irish Palestine Solidarity campaign. Nevertheless I can guarantee she was no supporter of Assad.

    This was her speech on the sanctions. Health Agencies on the ground in Syria were saying the sanctions including medical products and drugs were making the situation on the ground much worse and having no impact on Assad. She was critical of Assad in it and mentions the Amnesty reports on his war crimes. Where was she wrong on below?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,335 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Nonsense. See above. 5 min speech, wont take you long. You are putting words in her mouth.

    The FG boys really fear this honest caring intelligent woman.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,429 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I wouldn't be voting for her, but I don't think she's in any way 'D4', by which I assume you means what the Yanks call 'inside the Beltway', ie old boys, networked, establishment, media influence, nepotism etc.

    If anything, she may be a bit naive to stand up to a campaign of the sort faced by Adi Roche and Mary Davis, and maybe she deserves the credit of the self-awareness to recognise that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,415 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    You really get upset when your hero’s blind spot for murderous dictators gets pointed out - going so far as to try to infer anyone who doesn’t blindly praise her as you do must be linked to another political party.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,746 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    McAleese was a TV journalist. Far from unknown



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,335 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I see you couldn't back up your claims and gave up 😉

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Ah yes, the classic blaming of everything on the US springs up immediately after her comments on his war crimes.

    The people "never asked for this war" and at no point whatsoever does she question whether that war was caused by a dictatorial regime hell bent on supressing its people. No, instead it is all the fault of the West and Al Assad should have been left in peace to gas his people to death as he chose fit. I have zero time for anyone who claims to support the Palestinian cause who also supports Assad, given he was responsible for the deaths of thousands of Palestinians. It completely exposes them as hypocritical shills who care only about being anti-Western and who have no heartfelt care for the Palestinian people at all.

    She is nothing more than the embodiment of the classic "US bad, therefore anything that isn't the US good" anti-intellectual, anti-logic, anti any semblance of introspection nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,335 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I am not sure you actually listened to the video. It was a lot more balanced than you suggest. Where did she say she supports Assad? Exact words please before you go off on a rant. Was she and the medical charities wrong on the impact of the sanctions?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,196 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Don't get all the fawning over Connolly.

    But of course she is popular in Galway city which is full of woke lefties.

    Mod: warning given for trolling

    Post edited by Seth Brundle on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,415 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    I already provided links to back up the claims.


    Your rebuttal was to claim anyone who doesn’t blindly worship Connolly must be a party hack.


    Her campaigning for Daly last year is, on its own, enough of an indicator of the free pass she constantly gives to murderous dictators and their shills, so long as they are anti-Nato



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Yes I listened. She moved from Assad's war crimes to US war crimes - completely unrelated to the topic at hand - within about 3 seconds. She then went on a bit of a meander about how this isn't what the Syrian uprising was actually about or what the people actually wanted while implying the whole thing was the West's fault as opposed to the genocidal dictator in place.

    Continuing to associate herself with Daly and Wallace should be enough to rule her out, but she has plenty of the same leanings as them which should rule her out on her own merits anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,518 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Rule out you giving her a vote you mean.

    If she gets the nominations she is entitled to run, you don’t nor nobody else has the power to ‘rule somebody out’.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Quite obviously that is what I mean yes. Though in an ideal world I would hope it would rule her out of a nomination but she is obviously entitled to seek one.



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