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When moving what’s expected

  • 22-04-2025 10:21PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭


    moving house soon. There’s things like headboards etc bolted to the wall. When I remove them there will be holes.

    Am I expected to fill them ? Or will I leave them. They’ll need to be painted after they are filled.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,521 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Are you moving out of a rental? Or from a house you have sold?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    If this is a rental, you will be expected to do a full repair. However, you can probably argue over whether the wall needed painting anyway.

    If you are selling a property, there is the expectation on behalf of a buyer that they will need to spend some money on minor repairs and decoration. Some buyers will whine over this - ignore them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Rental - It's somebody else property. You need to repair (will be in lease).

    Selling - Caveat Emptor. The house is sold as is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Thanks all. It’s a house I own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,430 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Unless your contract says otherwise, fixtures and fittings are included in the sale and should be left in the house. Anything that's bolted to the wall looks a lot like a fixture and, strictly speaking, should not be removed unless you have express agreement for the removal.

    Having said that, it's unlikely that the purchaser wants your headboard, so he will probably readily agree to its removal. But when you're having that conversation, that's the time to deal with the issue of damage to the wall. I think it would be reasonble to offer to fill the hole and touch up the paintwork. If I were the purchaser, I would probably make my agreement to the removal conditional on the vendor making good the wall (unless I was planning immediate work that would fix the problem anyway).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    well technically the headboard is just sitting on rail.
    it’s hanging with a French cleat.

    I’m leaving the TV brackets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,430 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Maybe leave the rail too? It's a fixture. Plus, that way the new owner can decide whether he wants holes in the wall or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,925 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    It depends on what you listed as fixtures and fittings. Lots of furniture from IKEA for example have brackets to secure them from falling. Technically you could call it a fixture because of that but not many people would expect them to be left. A built in unit in an alcove is more what this is meant to cover along with kitchens. If you had expensive light fittings you may want to take them and exclude from the list. I picked up two lights at a flea market for 6 euro and years later when I looked them up I found they are about 3keuro to buy if you can find them. I am never leaving them behind



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,430 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Obviously, you can stipulate in your contract of sale that you are removing certain fixtures and fittings. No problem there. This is quite commonly done. Be sure to put the lights in the contract when you sell your house!

    (Seriously. I know of a dispute between a seller who removed a built-in fish tank and a buyer for whom the built-in fish tank was a major attraction that influenced his decision to buy the house. Neither had thought to mention to the other the importance of the fish tank to them, and the contract did not refer to it.)

    As to what exactly amounts to a fixture: a lot of Ikea furniture is fixed to the wall to prevent it from falling over — there's a screw in the wall and a bracket or a strip of fabric that is in turn secured to the furniture. The screw and the bracket are fixtures; the furniture, probably not. A picture rail is a fixture and, by analogy, I'd say that a strip of wood or metal that serves as the base of a French cleat, as described by ted1, is a fixture.

    In general, if it's fixed to the fabric of the house and if removing it would damage the fabric in way that would require repair, it's a fixture. But some things that don't tick those boxes are still considered fixtures — e.g. fitted carpets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,369 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Painting and decorating is usually one of the first things people want to do to put their own stamp on a place when they first move in. So I wouldn't worry about leaving some holes where a headboard was. It's a two second fix with polyfilla.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Leave them be, buyer won't care.

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



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