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Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 12.02.26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭jayo44




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Imo, Amorim will want a firing front line to score goals and that's where his focus will be this summer, which all in all should take the load off Onana, for next season anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,563 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Cunha and a top class striker will transform our attack but we need to prioritise that top class number 9 striker first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,685 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    When you look at some of the **** results we've had this season our goals conceded isn't that bad. Goals scored though we're like the sixth worst team in the league in that table.

    Goals conceded has us mid table I think and even the likes of Newcastle and City have only conceded two and four less goals than us but have scored 20+ more than us.

    I think you're right and we'll see Amorim focusing on improving the attack with new seasons this summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,998 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    lots to be saved in wages. obviously some of these will need to be replaced (at a way lower cost base), but that weekly outlay for a relatively low return on the pitch is atrocious.

    all of these are going, or should go. and as you say, some will generate transfer fees.

    possibly in rashford's case (and maybe antony?) we may need to supplement wages but it should represent a huge saving.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Runswithfeet


    Highly unlikely we will target a replacement for Onana this Summer…..but IF it was the case,Matz Sels is someone who Utd should be targeting as he would not cost an arm and a leg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭Torrey


    Was at the game also, one thing I noticed was the warmup, players only came out about 25mins before kick off, they went through a fairly lacklustre warm up, a good portion was the attackers just spamming the ball at goal, thought it looked a bit unorganised and lacked intensity, honestly we go through a more vigorous warm up with our junior football team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,304 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    can certainly see whatever budget we have that is not reliant on sales is put towards the forwards - and we only look at CB, CM etc based on money raised.

    I think we absolutely need a bunch of signings, but if we were to add 25/30 goals to this side the difference that alone would make is huge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,126 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    Would love if there was even a shred of truth in the Cunha story but if you put yourself in the position of the likes of him who probably has the choice of 10 top clubs to sign for…….

    Why oh why would you join our shitshow!😥

    And if the answer is because you are being offered crazy money…..well then INEOS may as well feck off!……



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    If the quote is true at 60ih million, that's what, 4 year contract, paying 15million which is not bad when you consider the table above about wages saved etc and players going.

    Club needs to make the absolute right signings that fit the profile.

    Kloop did it well after his first season in charge.

    Cuhna would be a solid signing and not the big glammer signing we have done the last few years.

    Now someone find a young Cavani to lead the line please



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    I say young I mean 25ish years.

    Holy **** I just felt old typing that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭talla10


    I disagree I think a lot of fans seem to think United can afford to continue spending big money on transfers when the club have said our spending will be affected by monies owed on previous transfers. The club have cut hundreds of local jobs, they have openly and clearly said the club finances are not sustainable and if measures are not implemented the club would have run out of money this year.

    This is a very bleak outlook which does not suggest United have the ability to spend millions in the summer. I think we will see a much needed clear out of partial clearout, a reduced wage bill but cannot see us having the ability to spend big money on players we need.

    Maybe I'm too pessimistic but I think we are in for a few more harsh seasons



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,406 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,339 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Laurie Whitwell has confirmed the Cunha talks, Wolves open to installments but obviously would prefer it upfront.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,304 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    You could be right - none of us know.

    My view is that it isn't as bleak as is being suggested - and in some ways the financial aspects need to be compartmentalised.

    Jim did say we would be out of money by the end of the year - but that is the reality we have had for a number of years. that is why we had the credit facility; with the goal being to not use it/use it less going forward. So I don;t think he was lying, but it isn't a new situation. He simply doesn't want to be relying on that like the Glazers have.

    The staff cuts are, imo, to bring the operational costs down below a certain percentage of revenue. Ie. we spend X on football (direct) and X on Operational - they want to reduce the operational which has increased massively in the last 5 years in comparison to Revenue - by reducing th eoperation we then reduce our losses and/or increase the money available for direct football use.

    I personally look at the Wage/Revenue situation at the club and think it looks fine in terms of general budgeting - second or third lowest percentage in the league - so it doesn't scream like we need to be getting tens of millions from that each year. And the reality is that if we want to get back into the CL, we probably can't afford to.

    The real issue with wages, imo, is the value we get.

    Rasford doing nothing for us on 350k
    Sancho doing nothing for us on 250k
    Eriksen and Lindelof on 150-180k each?
    Antony on 110-140k?

    IMO if you move Rashford on and replace hiim with Osimhen you are saving no money but you are getting 25 extra goals a season.
    IMO if you move sancho on and replace him with Chuna you are saving maybe a little, but you are probably getting 15 extra goals a season

    Add 40 goals to this side like that - and we rocket up the table. Maybe not certainty for top 4, but we'd be in that conversation.

    I do think we will need to see some relatively significant salels to provide the cash to make this summer a big one - but I don't think the general cost of the football side needs to reduce, we 'just' need to get value for that money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    I think the way lads talk about adding goals to the team is far too simplistic, in Rashfords 30 goal year, as a team we only scored 2 more goals than when we finished 8th.

    It doesn't just work like, so and so scores 20 goals, that's 20 more for the club. It sounds obvious, but it is a team game.

    This is why I put the GK need higher up the pecking order than most.

    We do need a striker too though. While I believe in him, Rasmus is in a state of free fall, he badly needs the summer break.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,577 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I would fear having a CM pairing of Ugarte and Bruno. Teams would run / power through us. I've been a critic of Bruno but he has been excellent lately, and I know some of those performances have come when he has dropped deeper but I don't see him as a Plan A for CM, it suits to play him there when we're chasing a game or late on in games but I wouldn't be looking at him to play that position as a constant. Ugarte isn't good enough to take on the main defensive work, he would need more help than Bruno provides on the regular.

    Osimhen(Another decent striker), Cunha and Bruno would be a very strong front 3.

    It might be too much of a push to expect a CM signing on top of them. If so, I would hope that Amorim can prove his worth and make a solid CM pairing from Ugarte, Mainoo, Collyer, Casemiro, Mount… not ideal, but if he gets a very good striker and 10, I think we should expect that he can find some short term solution to get us to the next summer window.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,304 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    I would agree in terms of if you are funneling chances to one player who is scoring then it impacts the other numbers.

    So you can't just say Rashford gets 30 so add Osiimhen and we get 60. That is true.

    but that just isn't the case with this side.

    The players we are, or are trying to, funnel chances to are not scoring. not creating (generally) and losing the ball a lot.

    Garnacho has 5 goals in the PL.
    Hojlund has 3.

    There isn't another forward player that is 'taking' goals from them that Cunha and Osimhen (for eg) would be rebalancing.

    I think Osimhen gets 20 PL goals, I reckon Cunha could get 15. and I do think that is basically just additive over Garnacho and Hojlund.

    Maybe that does take away goals from Bruno - but that is pretty much it, and i think Bruno would still be impactful in that regard anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,577 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    It's a bleak picture but Jim it was in Ratcliffe's interest to be painting it as bleakly amid such staffing cuts, media attention etc. He also said something along that lines that we would be the most profitable club in the world in 5 years (iirc). So it can't be that bleak... I also think he said that there would be investment in the squad this summer (or something along the lines that Amorim will be backed this summer).

    I can see us being active this summer but only because/if there's a fairly substantial clear out... Sancho, Rashford, Antony and maybe the likes of Garnacho.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,339 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Apparently it's Delap we want....Trying to find a decent source to confirm.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,923 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Despite the poor on-pitch performance, and the impact that has on prize & TV money, the club remains one of the highest revenue earners in world football. And despite those revenues, the piss-poor transfer dealings and contracts handed out, together with a bloated overhead base, mean the club has been loss-making.

    It doesn't take a big stretch to see where smartening up in terms of player investments and tightening up on the cost base would return the club to profitability before improvements in prize & TV money would then swell those profits.

    Equally well, despite the gloomy level of the current finances and cash flows, it's not hard to imagine Ineos being willing to finance the right player investments if they believe it will help in a return to profitability.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,304 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    THere are a good few reports on it - but i just can't see him being our ideal choice.

    IMO we will move for Osimhen if we make the CL.
    If we don't or Osimhen rejects us, then Delap is first choice.

    So i think Delap is our most likely choice - cause I don't think we will win the EL, but even then I think he will have offers that he might prefer more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    Which club do you think Delap would pick over Utd?

    I don't see him getting offers from the very top, maybe Chelsea



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,339 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Burnley promotion means we earn a little more from Hannibals transfer, unsure of how much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,304 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Newcastle and Chelsea are being linked.
    Newcastle will probably be in the CL but if Isak stays then he is second choice.
    Chelsea will likely have euro football, and are further in their project - decent chance of being first choice there. Worked with their coach at City I think.
    I also wonder if Arsenal or Liverpool could end up being in for him - like if Arsenal can't get Gyokeres do they fall back to Delap? He might not be instant first choice at Arsenal but he'd have a good shout at it, and he'd have a much better platform than here.
    Villa seemed happy to listen to an offer for Watkins in January, so maybe they sell him and look at Delap? They will have europe in some guise. More stable too.

    At United he' be first choice, but he'd also be signing for a side that could finish 17th. There is no certainty we finish in Euro places next season either.

    It will rumble for another while anyway, imo - cause we won't do anything til our outcome from the EL is known. So it could also be the case that Chelsea are saying we want you andd want you to sign now (next week for eg) and we are saying 'Wait til June cause we might want to sign someone better'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,731 ✭✭✭caviardreams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 922 ✭✭✭ngunners




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,577 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    That's some job if you can get it... Surely that can't be true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,685 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Scott Carson's contract in 2022 was £30K a week. One source says Napoli's first choice Alex Meret whose out of contract this summer is on £3.1M a year.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,677 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios




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