Manchester United Thread 2024/25 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

BIL over at Madrid v Bilbao game tonight…..would be a canny enough judge of teams……reckons our chances of beating Bilbao are slim…..

Was his first time seeing Simon play live and text me ‘Yep I see why Spain dropped DDG’

anyone seen the Wolves manager record v Amorim since coming in.

This he doesn’t have the players is bullshit, he has enough quality to be at least mid table. The managers job is to get the best out of the players he has and adapt. Not just say this is the only way I play and will be until I get different players.

Given his wages and performances, zero chance of sale surely?

Loan at best.

For the 100th time...

He's not saying "this is the only way I play". He has been told by the ownership that this is the only way he is to play.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Why are you surprised? It has been said over and over for 8 months now.

It has been stated by Ratcliffe that the management would decide the style of play and the manager would be chosen to implement that. Rather than have what we've had for years where one manager comes in, players bought to suit him, then he leaves and the next guy has a whole different plan needing new players.

It was stated by Amorim that he was brought in specifically for his style & system.

He said when he arrived that there would be some pain as the players adapted but if they don't face the pain then they'll just end up in the same boat in 2 years time, sacking a manager and starting from scratch.

And yet when the promised pain arrives, the usual suspects want to sack the manager and start from scratch.

For better or worse, the ownership have decided that 343 is the direction we're going. If Amorim quits, they'll replace him with someone playing a similar system. It is here for the foreseeable.

So rather than moan every time we lose a game, especially when the main reason we're losing is because we have no striker, people need to look at the bigger picture. Talk of ditching a manager and a system when he has had half a season, hasn't had players who suit the system, had to get shot of dead weight like Antony, Sancho & Rashford, has a keeper with a confidence crisis, has been trying to mould players into different roles and hasn't had a striker worth a damn, is short sighted and ridiculous.

Give Amorim the summer. Give him a striker who can actually put away a chance, and a few more to fit/strengthen the team. Give him a proper pre season. If he gets all that and we're still bottom half in 12 months time, THEN people can start questioning his future.

BIL = Brother in Law…….unfortunately it’s mainly linked to work that he gets jaunts to games so can never go with!……

Was chatting him there and he was saying Bilbao,apart from all being highly proficient technically,all work extremely hard off the ball and have a great keeper and frontline….kinda the direct opposite of the current Utd side!😢

Might be time to get the rosary beads 📿 out…..

We've actually played pretty ok in the main over the last number of games but as said above, our lack of a goal getter has cost us dearly. Obviously this will be addressed in the summer and if we start next season the way we've been (results wise) RA will come under huge pressure.

Personally, I couldn't give a monkeys, they've been the best team this season and are deserving champions, fair play to them.

So we are Excuses FC now? Last year we were Moments FC.

I don't think this is true, despite what the poster above says.

Imo..

1. It's not Ratcliffe setting the football direction, it's wilcox and berrada.

2. It's not about 343 specifically, it's about the general style of play. Possession based as opposed to counter. It's physicality and aggression. It's pressing and pressure.

3. Amorim was brought in because of the manager and style he is. And was told to implement that.

United have said it's not about buying niche players for his system, it's about buying versatile players who can play his system.

If amorim doesn't work out, it's not certain we'd go for a 3atb manager, but we will go for one that plays the same general philosophy. So that the squad we are building is usable by the next guy. Rather than going from moyes to lvg to Jose to ole.

https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/1k4fkg2/loan_watch_report_summary_of_202425_season_thus/

Nice post about our loan players, seems Wheatley has an attitude issue though I did laugh at him being 6'3 and horrible at headers....Where have I heard that before 😅

I don;t think a senior striker would transform him massively, but him being the only 'goal scorer' in the side is an appauling state and there are i think no examples of a young stiker developing into a quality player for a team without an experienced goal scorer to share the load.

If Rashford had continued the '22 form life would be different for lots of people i think.

But i was looking at this yesterady somewhere else. going into the 23/24 season our options where:

Rashford, Martial, Sancho, Hojlund, Antony, Greenwood, Garnacho Amad.

We all, i think, felt this needed to be improved.

Since then - Rashford, Martial, Sancho, Antony, Greenwood have all left. And we signed… Zirkzee. Not to sh.. on Zirkzee but we hadd an attack we all felt needed to be improved; lost 5 players and signed ONE.

I no longer belive that Hojlund will be an elite striker - but I also think that (1) he looks A LOT worse now than when he joined and (2) our horrendous mismanagement of the player recruitment has had a negative impact on him, garnacho and zirkzee.

Is Cunha a number 9 or more like a winger/striker?

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