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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭Economics101


    The fact that the nationwide polls you quote show >40% approval fir Trump is really worrying. In most countries you can count on about 20% being either nutters, chronic contrarians, or real arthoritarians/fascists. But 40% going along with this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,729 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Just look at the CBS poll quoted and you can see the cherry picking. Trump doing much worse in many of the more detailed polls included there. Plus, a downward trend (47% is lowest in 3 months, and lest we forget, most aren't as tuned in as this thread's readers. Give it time.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Mattyonthepatty


    Here is a further breakdown of approval/disapproval by demographic.

    It's more difficult to get this kind of information now five thirty-eight is no longer in operation.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Was about to say I'd love to know who the 4% of Democrats are that approve of him.

    Then I remembered Chuck Schumer and his merryband of cowards exist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Mattyonthepatty


    Trump won 49.8% of the vote and 31/50 states in the November election.

    So he has lost about 5% support since November.

    I predict we might see some late 30% ratings during his presidency as we did last time, he doesn't have to worry about re election so one can imagine he will be even more divisive this time around.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,881 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Even if he got 80% disapproval (there will always be some who approve) it would not make a difference, he is not going anywhere, even if he only has power till the mid terms he can obviously do massive damage before then. The more disapproval he gets, the more extreme and dictatorial he will get. Don't expect rational, his approach is 'I will force them to love me'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭yagan


    "Love will tear us apart" came to mind after reading your post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    My original theory on Trump's presidency is that it's just one long con.

    It's like a magicians act. Do all the visually powerful stuff out in front with my right hand. Meanwhile the actual trick/ con is being carried out behind my back with my left.

    Trump tanked the stock market a week ago and then somewhat bought it back up less than 24 hours later. Can you imagine how much he and his circle made in those 24 hours?

    But he's thrown so much out into the public domain before and since, we're not even talking about it now.

    UKRAINE, GAZA, VENEZUELA, SUPREME COURT, stock market crash, HARVARD, RUSSIA, TARRIFS, CHINA, EU.

    Even if the entire country turned on him, he'd have enough made and hidden that he'd be long gone before he has to face the music.

    I actually think it's the cretins from Vance down that will ultimately push the US towards some backwards Christian fundamentalist far right nightmare that will do America the most harm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    Is that so?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,729 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    That was just Trump 1.0. Stay tuned. (Biden not on list, not sure any indictments under his watch.)

    Trump had several of his administration convicted, and sentenced and did their time, and reinstated in Trump 2.0. Peter Navarro being the most glaring example. Bannon was convicted and sentenced, not quite back in the administration.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Some people will claim this is just further proof of the Democrats weaponizing the DoJ against their political opponents



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,050 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It seems, according to Ben Meiselas, Meidastouch of New York, SCOTUS issued an order earlier today to ACLU blocking the removal of some people [Venezuelan migrants] from the US by the Trump Admin pending a hearing of the 5th circuit court of appeal. Two of the SCOTUS bench voted against the issue.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,227 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Of course there will be some.

    You can write them off as people who can't be reached on a logical level.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,422 ✭✭✭trashcan


    I’m reminded of an old Elvis Costello song, “Crawling to the USA” which has a line that seems apt “Everybody is on their knees, except the Russians and the Chinese”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,854 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Yes, the charges she brought against Trump were completely over the top and abuse of power.

    How ironic that she alleged that Trump and his company committed business fraud by misrepresenting his net worth and the valuations of his properties in order to receive more favorable terms from lenders and banks.

    After all the witch hunts and lawsuits the Democrats put Trump through, it's entirely reasonable and necessary for Trump to give them a dose of their own medicine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,880 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    You must be truly outraged by him deporting people without trial so. Trump went to trial was found guilty as sin by a jury, meanwhile those in an El Salvador prison have faced no form of due process. Or do you only care that Trump was prosecuted for crimes that he did commit? You actually don't seem to be paying any attention to his presidency these days, just because it's going so atrociously?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Detritus70


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,229 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Seems Temu and Shein are upping their prices to compensate for tariffs. Might dawn on some that a tariff is a consumer tax.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,631 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I wonder if the 90% of Republicans who approve of him are aware he is not a Republican? He is a shyster who has effectively set up his own Trump / MAGA party and movement, a completely different entity - I imagine a large number of Republican reps secretly despise the guy (but cannot say it in public of course).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,335 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Just reading up on this Garcia fella they sent to El Salvador, they were dead right to get him out of the country because he seems to have come to the attention of law enforcement on way too many occasions.

    So smoke without fire I say.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,880 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    So he's never been convicted of anything but you think it's justified to deport him to El Salvador? I swear a fair few posters would have been celebrating WW2 Germany designating undesirables back in the day cause there's jumping through hoops to justify throwing human rights out the window…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,218 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Yes, the charges she brought against Trump were completely over the top and abuse of power.

    So by that 'logic'; the charges brought against her are……



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,631 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The issue was that he was deported without having been convicted of any actual crime in either the US or El Salvador. Had this been allowed to stand, this could have opened the floodgates to millions of US residents being deported from the country by Trump, even if they had never come to the attention of law enforcement in their lives (probably many tens of millions of current US residents and taxpayers moved there technically 'illegally').

    For some context btw, Garcia is married to an American citizen and they are raising a family of three, all of whom have special needs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭yagan


    Won't be surprised if he deports first nations people for being un-American.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,227 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

    You disregard Trump's convictions a jury of his peers, yet have determined in your own mind the outcome of a case yet to be heard.

    Your selective "logic" only serves to show others that cannot apply critical thinking to the most basic of premises.

    You seem to think that your post is a "gotcha" moments, when in reality it is farcical.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,881 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    It doesn't matter what kind of person Garcia is, or indeed any of the other people who were sent to El Salvador. The point is they did not have due process, which includes the opportunity to defend themself.

    This is not a matter of rounding someone up and throwing him into the local jail for a night because they are a bit suspect, this is effectively ending someone's life by not just deporting them, but putting them into a interment camp in a third country from which they have no chance of release.

    They should all be brought back, no doubt some of them are gang members and are not people you want free in the streets, but they need to be brought back and put through the proper process of a trial. Then you can deport or extradite them, or put them in jail in America.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Mattyonthepatty


    How the political witchunts backfired on the Democrats.

    They made a political Martyr out of Donald Trump.

    It all started with banning him on twitter and Facebook in 2021, then the many ridiculous court cases, the Dems should of been doing everything to keep Donald Trump out of the news cycle from 21-24 instead of giving him free media attention.

    The Dems would of been much better served getting their own house in order, they were lying to the American Electorate about president Bidens mental health for half a decade untill they couldn't hide after that infamous debate.

    If you want to blame someone for Trump being president again look no further than the powers to be at the Democrat party.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭yagan


    You're very confident there'll be another free and fair election in the USA. I'm not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭Dr Robert




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,854 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    That is very true.

    I said it at the time of the Alvin Bragg case that it was a nonsense case and taking it would backfire badly.

    It did make a Martyr out of Trump, it galvanised him and led to huge amounts of donations flooding in to renergise his campaign.

    The Letitia James case was also heavy handed, youd be prosecuting hundreds of companies on an annual basis if the same criteria was applied across the board as it was to Trump. It was selective targeting by a biased Attorney General and Judge.

    Standard industry practice expects the lender to do its own re-evaluation of the submissions made by Trump and other borrowers before issuing a loan. The lenders also made substantial profits in the transactions. There was no crime.

    The Dems would of been much better served getting their own house in order, they were lying to the American Electorate about president Bidens mental health for half a decade untill they couldn't hide after that infamous debate.

    Also 100% true.



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