Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Where your allegory falls down is that neither of you really worked for the cake, whereas in society, the people at the bottom are the ones doing all the work to bake the cake and then have the apparent temerity to wonder why virtually all the proceeds go upward to a very tiny number of people instead of down to them. And apparently it is they who are greedy for asking this.

It's fairly simple really, if you get too great of a wealth gap, you have the seed of popular revolt and the pushback against globalism is emblematic of that. If we want to maintain general societal stability, those at the top of the pyramid may want to consider easing the pressure valve a little and decide that maybe they don't need to become trillionaires, after all.

I get it, inequity but there always has been and always will be. You will never satisfy that need, it's human nature to be unsatisfied. Even the trillionaires are tearing their hair out because someone else has more. When I work I trade my labour for an agreed price, what someone else does with my output is irrelevant to me. I made the agreement and it was satisfied. I just think pandering to human weakness is not going to advance our society. If contracts are entered into freely and satisfied, happy days. Now things like inflation are an issue, that is none consensual erosion of wealth.

So for me ,justice here is the sheriff's deputy doing time for aiding in murder by not securing the murder weapon. I won't hold my breath.

But in the case of Maga, the majority of the bottom, are only too happy to see "the man" keep his billions. They love Trump, they love Musk, they will vehemently fight any idea that these guys should be taxed to raise the boats of others. So the blow back you describe is not against reducing the wealth gap, its about maintaining it. And whilst your at it, take away my healthcare and my labour rights.

All these simpletons should have been the most left leaning of everyone, but their hatred of gays, blacks and every other minority has overruled that.

It’s 13 million and some states slightly different but yeh good point

Well well well what do we have here.

You reap what you sow, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

James claimed that her principal residence was in Virginia whilst being AG of New York. She claimed her father was her husband. She claimed a five-unit was a four unit.

What a hypocrite James is, just like most of the Democrats, do as we say not as we do.

She doesnt like it now the boot is on the other foot.

MAGA would say of Trump and Musk, 'Yes, they're billionaires, but they're OUR billionaires! They're working for us!"

There are probably a number of things going on, here, but it ends with the sleight of hand trick that ordinary Americans champion the same kind of people who'd been screwing them over to begin with.

If she was breaking the law then of course she should be held responsible. Anyone breaking the law should be charged…of course under the current administration its something that just doesn't happen, honest, upright, law-abiding folk that they are, you are right, Democrats are a pit of iniquity, they should all be thrown in jail.

Introducing the fox into the chicken coop as a controlling method, Trump has appointed Fox News host Mark Levin to his Homeland Security Advisory Council. The media had better watch it's P's and Q's as Trump will use his anointed few to help Kristi Noem keep them from finding out what Trump is up to behind the curtains and who's leaking secrets to the media. Carparks may be back in vogue as meeting places.

You say: "What a hypocrite James is, like most Democrats". Whatever about James, I'll leave that to the actual evidence. But you use it to smear "most Democrats". Typical MAGA mass-character assassination.

Just thinking about the motivation of the Trump supporter who has dropped in again here this evening and all the others who advocated for Trump to win the last election.

All of the things they said last year, should discount Biden from being elected again are things that Trump has shown he is much more guilty of, in real terms.

• Targeting opponents - Check (Pam Bondi is in the news daily name checking people they're targeting on Trumps behalf)
• Unable to manage the economy - Check (Worst Stock Market Slide since Covid, Prices increasing, Recession looming)
• Poor relations with other countries - Check (Canada/Greenland/Panama/China/Mexico)
• Scandals in his Dept's - Check (Hegseth / Gabbard)
• Warmongering - Check (Advocating the annexing of Gaza/Bombing Yemeni Civilians/threatening Iran)
• Harming every day Americans - Check (Job losses/rising prices/culture of fear/undermining unions)
• Imposing Federal Rules on States - Check (Targeting Maine for implementation of Trans Rights)
• Shutting down Free Speech - Check (wholesale removing visa holders and targeting Universities on behalf of Israel)
• Making America Weak - Check (Countries are looking away from the US for trade deals and security conversations)
• Being part of the swamp - Check (Look at how he has enabled the worlds richest man to influence the Government)

Never before has a President proven how unfit he is for the job so quickly as this guy has. I mean he did it in his first term, but it probably didn't really happen until it was leaked how he tried to extort Zelensky and fell apart completely during BLM and Covid, but he's done all the above before Easter in Year 1 of his second term. Talk about hitting the ground running!

Wait. I thought that whomever was in POTUS had effective control over the DOj and therefore anything against a political opponent was obviously a witch hunt.

Or do you know believe the justice system is back on track?

Also, shouldn't you be waiting for a court verdict, as until then she is innocent.

And finally, if she did do those things shouldn't you respect her for playing the system?

Just got home from working in the US for the week.

The first thing that struck me was before I even left Ireland and the queue (or lack of a queue) at US Homeland security at Dublin airport. I've been to the US many times spanning almost 20 years and I have never been able to just walk up to the officer at border controls without queuing for ages . Until this time. No queue whatsoever. Visual evidence that nobody wants to go to the US.

The part of America I went to was deep south. A place with a dark KKK history. A place I've been to a few times where I always felt there was a simmering racism. Unsaid, but still unmistakably present. I was told by people who live there that in the last couple of months, the KKK are making something of a comeback....not that they were ever fully gone. But recently it's gotten to the stage where, feeling empowered by their leaders, they've come out in the open to the point where they're shoving promotional flyers into residential mailboxes. In fairness, the 3 or 4 local people who discussed this openly with me are utterly horrified by it. But there's not many who you'd broach the subject with at all.

One of the very few related experiences i had there was with a female Uber driver who when she questioned me as to where I was from, proceeded to tell me about her Irish friend who has now moved to Spain because she felt so unsafe in Ireland, she could no longer go anywhere feeling safe due all the immigrants around her and what a pity it was that they are taking over, running good people out of their own country etc. Of course I made the obvious reply of "So she is so afraid of immigrants, she became one herself....and not just anywhere, but in a place right next to Africa where there's 100 times more of them"

All in all, perhaps with a small degree of paranoia, I myself felt a lot more conscious whilst there of being the non American taking up a job that should be given to an American citizen (as they would see it).