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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Trump: I can end the war in 24 hours..

    Meanwhile in America…

    “US to decide within days if Ukraine peace deal 'doable'”

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ukraine/2025/0418/1508323-ukraine-talks/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,614 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Bald is a somewhat dubios Youtuber, since he’s previously had little trouble toeing the party line for the likes of China and others. However his videos in Ukraine had always been interesting. It appears he went in again fairly recently with this video:

    (Beware: There is an upsetting scene where a playground has been converted into a memorial for children who had been killed by shrapnel while playing there.)

    It does give an interesting glimpse of how everyday Ukrainians cope with life at war. I also found the town Bald visits near the end of the video on Google Streetview from 9 years ago.

    https://maps.app.goo.gl/rnUaU6VeVWY3QQST6?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy

    The contrast is striking, especially when you notice the calm everyday beats of the place that are shown in StreetView and that in a few short years that same place will get ruined by a Russian occupation.

    Bald does annoy me a bit in this video when it seems like he is trying to both-sides blame for the conflict while standing at the site where people had been bombed. I get he might have been going for the whole human cost agrument of this, but the blame is clear. This is all because of The Russians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭poop emoji


    https://www.reuters.com/world/us-ready-abandon-efforts-broker-russia-ukraine-peace-deal-rubio-says-2025-04-18/

    There we have it, master negotiator reduced to a bumbling idiot by Putin just saying “no”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,543 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    Depending what they mean by "move on" it looks like Trump is going to hang Ukraine out to dry. Why would Putin entertain a ceasefire now….

    Marco Rubio said just moments ago from the French capital that the US will walk away from its efforts to broker peace between Russia and Ukraine unless there are clear signs of progress in the coming days. 

    "We need to figure out here now, within a matter of days, whether this [peace deal] is doable in the short term, because if it's not, then I think we're just going to move on," he said. 

    "We're not going to continue with this endeavour for weeks and months on end," he added. 

    Rubio with French counterpart Jean-Noel Barrot and the UK's David Lammy yesterdayReuters

    Rubio said Donald Trump is still interested in pursuing peace, but that the US has many other priorities around the world. 

    "We need to determine very quickly now - and I'm talking about a matter of days - whether or not this is doable in the next few weeks. If it is, we're in. If it's not, then we have other priorities to focus on as well."

    https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-trump-putin-zelenskyy-rubio-russia-moscow-kyiv-latest-12541713



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭live4tkd


    They made f**king apes of themselves with their nonsense! Only fear now is despite a supposed minerals deal that they won`t give any more aid and it will be left to Europe. I really despise that administration. i was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt even though I was uneasy but they seem to make me wretch in revulsion every time I see or hear from them now! We will see what happens in the next few weeks whether they can redeem themselves or not.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,978 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    So they have so far walked in and attacked, berated, threatened the invaded country. Dressed down it's leader, cut off intelligence, cut off supplies at a crucial time. Blamed it for being invaded. Shaken it down for minerals.

    While doing nothing but appeasing, bowing and scraping to the invader.

    Now it looks like they are walking away.

    Putin supporters completely mute of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭rogber


    So it seems US will just abandon Ukraine completely, cease giving any aid, and let Europe take over. Either Europe steps up to the plate or Ukraine falls and Europe has a few million more refugees to host. That's maybe the only threat that will make the EU act. Though even then it probably won't. It will be a very ugly year for Ukraine by the looks of it. Is anything capable of turning the tide back in its favour?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭poop emoji


    Can we stop with the “Europe needs to step up” nonsense

    Europe and other non US western countries like Japan have been stepping up and actually delivering instead of making big noises like US does and delivering only a fraction

    Loads of interesting graphs here last updated this week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    If they move on hopefully the US keeps sending supplies or at the very least allow Europe to buy them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,817 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I'm not convinced Trump will go through with this if he is confronted with the likely consequences. Maybe he could live with Russia overrunning Ukraine but we all know Putin would not stop there…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭Suckler


    One big issue will be US Military manufacturing; As soon as Europe said they'd increase they're own production Rubio started to squeal immediately. It's a massive enterprise and a big employer. Cutting off Ukraine would be a big loss financially but wars like Ukraine are also a massive R&D opportunity. How they can get in the Presidents ear will be a big issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,639 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Trump seems insane. I wouldn't put anything past him. Signs of dementia as welll, and he's under even more pressure than last year. Plus, even when he seemed sane, he was never the brightest penny in the wallet.

    Europe's doing the right thing, Ireland should arm itself as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    We still have most if not all of the opposition parties opposed to the proposed & planned Irish Defence Forces military build up as recommended by the Defence Commission report BEFORE this war escalated in 2022.

    It's a valid opinion to demand that Ireland stays neutral whilst upgrading it's defence budget & also co-operating with EU & European nations in international security matters.

    However objecting to Ireland even increasing it's current low level military budget & capacity in a very dangerous world situation nowadays & for the foreseeable future is the cowardly policy of traitors.

    It could even be argued that some of these elected opposition politicians are under the influence of certain overseas powers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,639 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Agreed. Ukraine's showed the importance of strategic thinking in the presence of limited materiel. Ireland has a fair amount of technology savvy, and could be doing things with surveillance and drone tech. Not saying we're should load up on ships and tanks and missile systems, but lighter-investment tech should be something we're investigating. If Iran can manufacture drones, why not Ireland?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭rogber


    A lot done more to do, as a famous election poster once said.

    And there is a lot more to do, and faster. Germany is prime example: yes, it has helped a lot, but under Scholz always gave everything too late and only if Biden went first. What Europe, including Germany under Merz, must do is lead and show initiative, because the US is clearly not going to play that role under Trump



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,391 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,579 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Basically Trump wants Ukraine and Europe to agree to all of Putin's demands, and if they don't '' they are fools ''

    You'd have to wonder when leaders are going to question publicly what Putin has on Trump. That discussion needs to be taking place, even deals with other leaders to dismiss it as AI what ever it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭zv2


    Maybe he is insane but I doubt it. Politics on the highest levels is normally insane. It doesn't go by the rules of normal life. Trump says he wants to stop the killing in Ukraine but he will bring hell to Yemen and Gaza. The truth is, his "concern" for life is just another playing card in high politics. Realpolitik/insanity.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,391 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Maybe word is finally getting out about the meat grinder

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,727 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Ukraine has been revolutionising the modern battlefield and it would be great if Ireland could help them out by setting up manufacturing for something like the drone detailed in this article:

    https://militarnyi.com/en/articles/exclusive-ukraine-s-techno-taras-budget-interceptor-drone-detailed-to-militarnyi/

    Still think that Trump pulling out of supplying weapons to Ukraine would be shooting their arms industry in the foot but with the way he has acted in recent weeks this seems entirely possible. All of Europe will benefit from further support for Ukraine's armed forces and arms industry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,391 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    No Taurus officially yet, but it's a damn good package.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Video of another HIMARS launcher destroyed by an Islander missile. I think that's the 3rd or 4th now which isn't too bad in 3 years but a bad loss none the less.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭junkyarddog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    What difference does it make? If they pull support what they recognize or not is irrelevant , they will have no influence over the facts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭AngeloArgue


    The Americans are trying to get both sides to stop and agree something which is unpalatable to both. Presumably they want to shift focus to Iran and China and are concerned about their resource capabilities, They don't have enough to sustain 3 wars, hence the willingness to do a deal with Russia. Geo-politically Trump has kicked a hornet's nest.

    We are living through interesting times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭yagan


    If Trump recognizes crimea as Russia and then Ukraine advance there Trump comes to his friends aid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    So why doesn't Trump come to Putin's Aid with the Ukrainian incursions into Kursk & Belgorod?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,817 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    am I missing something here? So Rubio threatens America will walk away from the entire situation if there isn’t serious progress towards a peace deal within days. Does this not mean if Putin keeps obstructing and refusing to make serious concessions he will be rewarded by America pulling military support for Ukraine as part of its broader withdrawal?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    So basically the Ukrainian prisoners will look like inmates of a WW2 Belsen concentration camp, whilst the Russians have been treated in accordance with the Geneva convention on the rights of prisoners of war regulations.

    **** Russia & Putin. Just a scumbag Nazi fascist state under the control of the most evil leader of the 21st century.



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