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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭thereiver


    In this case first they came for anyone who is critical of trump or his policy's then they came for the protestors against Israeli Genocide in Gaza now they come for the universitys adopt or policy's against dei and protestors next they come for us citizens who are protesting against the government

    See techdirt.com. Long article Harvard and other universities are standing up for free speech even though trump is saying he,ll stop billions of dollars of research funding if they don't follow his policy's on dei We can hope that a democrat will be the next president and restore federal agencys so they can serve the public as before



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭randd1


    That Vance is a degenerate hillbilly. And one dangerous kunt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Terence Rattigan


    time for Starmer to bite the bullet and rejoin the EU in some shape or form



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭DarkJager21


    Pathetic little bitch of a man, every time he opens his mouth the immediate reaction is "just shut the **** up". A spineless boot licker, hopefully he's nice and close to Trump whenever karma comes calling for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Mattyonthepatty


    So how about all the places and voters that voted blue in 2020 but flipped to Red in 2024 to win the popular vote.

    Were those people subhuman scum back when they voted for Biden or only Subhuman scum when they voted for Trump?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    You have to ask why they changed their vote. What was new about Trump in 2024 that they felt made him better than 2020?

    If it was his promises about MAGA then they were deluded, as his time in office previously was enough to disabuse that notion. He stated repeatedly that he was out for vengeance. He was convicted on multiple counts, was found to have slept with a porn star and used campaign funds to cover it up.

    So what was it that changed their minds?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,489 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    "Subhuman scum" is not my term, and I am not going to defend it. Nor have you any reason to ask me to.

    The issue is not where people live or how they voted before; the issue is why they vote for Trump.

    If they vote for Trump because they like the cruelty, the racism, the illegality, etc then, yes, they are depraved.

    But I don't imagine that everyone who voted for Trump did so because they like those characteristics. I am sure there are many who voted for him despite those characteristics, either because they were blind to them or because they overlooked them in the hope of something else.

    I have no way of knowing how many of Trump's voters voted for him because they are depraved, and how many voted for him because they are merely deluded. And neither, I imagine, do you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    The country that voted Trump for president is not going to vote AOC for president.

    The Dems will have to do more than simply not talk about the social and DEI policies that a large number of Americans clearly don't like. They will have to go further, closer to disowening them.

    In short, the Dems need to move to the right on non economic issues



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭poop emoji


    Just want to point out that pond scum actually does something useful and produces oxygen and keeps insects happy, we ultimately evolved from pond scum (over billions of years, not 4000)

    That’s more that can be said of MAGA cult members!

    The word people are looking for is turd 💩



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,989 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I can understand the frustration, and indeed many of these groups gravitate towards Trump, but it's missing some very large groups:

    The party faithful - the GOP could run a trashcan and it would get a significant baseline of votes

    Low information voters - another vast number, Trump is masterful at manipulating this group with cheap populism

    Then there is another swath of that group, middle America who voted for him simply because they recognised his name on the ballot (who the hell is Harris?)

    All of whom have been worked for decades by the conservative media machine, pumping them with culture wars and tribalism 24/7.

    Combine that with weak disorganised last minute leadership from the Dems, plus world events happening during their tenure (global inflation) + Trump's extraordinary luck (legal, the magical assassination escape photo op) and we arrive at him pipping at the post



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭Shelga


    I’m a woman. I wish the Democrats hadn’t run a woman. It’s pathetic, but I genuinely think America won’t vote for a woman president. At the very least, she will be at a disadvantage to any male candidate who possesses the exact same traits and experience as her. People may dismiss that aspect, but it’s hard to conclude otherwise IMO.

    Just run a straight white male with a vision and an effective communication style. I’d like to see Trump or his successor beat that.

    Edit: and if you disagree, just ask yourself, is there a bigger element of risk for the Dems in running a man or a woman in 2028?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭BP_RS3813


    I never said personally that I think he is charasmatic. He appears that way to ejets and scum though - which happens to be a good portion of america who also happen to be the loudest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭BP_RS3813


    Its one thing to admit brexit was a mistake and deal with the fallout. Another thing entirely to get them to turn tails and beg to rejoin EU, even if circumstances put EU + UK against US, still an extreme bullet to bite. Especially when it took them nearly 10 years to realise brexit was a mistake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    Surely freeing 'Tommeh' will be another demand?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    To the surprise of nobody, it is reported that Trumps chief fangirl MTG "bought between about $21,000 and $315,000 in stocks on April 8 and 9, the day before and the day of Trump’s tariff pause announcement". NYT.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,538 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Money effectively stolen from the pension funds etc of ordinary Americans.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    What makes you think these issues were that important and would make people shift their vote? From what I recall inflation was the big issue not DEI. There doesn't seem to be a need to shift their view but just ensure that they're focusing on the bigger issues too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Hoop66




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    If you consume a lot of RW social media, then "DEI" was THE BIGGEST issue, cruelly crushing America.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,957 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Trump bans Associated Press from the Oval Office despite a court ruling. They were banned apparently because they wouldn't use the term gulf of America.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,344 ✭✭✭trashcan


    I haven’t studied the figures in detail, maybe you have, but how many actually switched their vote from 2020 ? Is it not equally possible (maybe even more so) that more Democrat voters simply stayed home in 2024.? Then there are the reports of voter suppression, which it has been claimed led to millions of votes being discounted. I wouldn’t be so sure that America actually swung back to Trump in significant numbers. Wasn’t his overall vote pretty similar to last time, whereas the Democrat vote was down ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,747 ✭✭✭yagan


    Regardless a significant cohort of the US voted for four more years of "everyday is table flip day".

    I'm coming more to the acceptance that some people simply want to burn government down.

    If brexit was sold as a liberation from being held back by EU membership, then Trump is promising liberation from government.

    They're both fantasies, but for many fantasy is preferable to reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    I know of a few that would be happy for the US to have no federal government at all. Effectively split into 50 separate countries!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    I think the flip was down to much much less Dems voting overall than actually votes switching to a different candidate this time

    Trump's vote in most places remained consistent within a % or 2 of the last election

    Biden got 81million votes in 2020 and Trump got 77 million in 2020

    Difference was that Kamala got 75 million in 2025 while Trump kept his votes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭briany


    "Trump's voters are all older and will die off, so there isn't much chance of him being elected again."

    Another absolute doozy said on here before the 2024 election. He actually increased his vote in each subsequent election from 2016.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    That's not what I'm saying. He has increased, but at nowhere near the same rate as dems decreased

    Had the Democrats held exactly the same numbers as last time, Trump's increase wouldn't have been enough to elect him

    They dropped off a cliff this election



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭pad406


    Seems to be 50/50 to switching and turnout to me

    2020, turnout was 155m. Biden got 81m, Trump 74m

    2024, turnout was 152m. Harris got 75m, Trump 77m

    Turnout was down 3m, so 3m switched between Dem and Rep



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭poop emoji


    https://www.ft.com/content/4c4b0f14-3e85-4436-94de-204d3f518f3c

    Where are them “checks and balances” we were told about now that Trump is ignoring the Supreme Court?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,747 ✭✭✭yagan


    I think the libertarian wouldn't even accept state tax. The neo tea party fashioned themselves as fiscal liberators, but the original 13 colonies while not having state taxes did fund a federal government by duty on imports.

    Tax paid to the king across the ocean stopped, but that didn't mean funding administration did.

    Tax derived almost entirely from duty on imports worked fine as long as there was a constant demand for raw materials from the old world. One of New Amsterdam's main exports was beaver pelts.

    In a time when it was foreigners who funded the US federal government I could well imagine how those in the frontier felt that individual taxation was unnatural.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    I made this same point a month ago on this thread.

    Trump acts like he is in a position of strength and thinks he holds all the cards.

    Yet the USA is spending $2 trillion a year more than it makes.

    And they have to borrow that money from the very countries that Trump is pissing off the most.

    The US bond market will play a key role in Trumps downfall, sooner rather than later.

    Trump needs to read the book "Economics and Trade for Dummies".



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