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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,560 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    In fairness, don't think the public wanted him to crash the economy and seems to be lots of buyer's remorse on show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Have grocery prices dropped? Must've missed that one. And, umm, health care plan?

    He did promise to go tariff crazy, true. Are you glad he's keeping that one and staying true to it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,237 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Leavitt describes Abrego Garcia as "hiding in Maryland" and says, "based on the sensationalism of many of the people in this room, you would think we deported a candidate for father of the year"

    She is one disgusting piece of shït.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,014 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Some people here have been saying that the courts would stop Trump, and I have been saying that their word isn't worth much if the mechanisms are not in place to enforce their rulings. We're now beginning to see this bare out. This wasn't any great insight on my part or anyone else saying the same. It was just simple common sense - a simple extrapolation on the concept that when someone tries to overturn a free and fair election, they probably have no real respect for the law, because real respect for the law means abiding by it even when it doesn't run in your favour.

    That and Trump's backers published a massive coffee table book on how they planned to dismantle US democracy. Should have been a clue for everyone, as well. Honestly, the only surprise in this is how fast his administration has moved in accomplishing its various goals.

    Only going to get worse from here unless Trump's opponents grow a proper pair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Mattyonthepatty




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,905 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Mattyonthepatty


    The Donnie that does the moonwalk? That micheal Jackson? 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,230 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    The US have jurisdiction everywhere. They have a literal plan to invade the EU if any friend of theirs is ever held in the Hague

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Protection_Act

    And they already do this stuff

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshal_of_the_United_States_Supreme_Court



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,028 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    The war in Ukraine and conflict in Gaza are still going on. He said he'd end them rapidly when in office. He has launched attacks on Yemeni citizens, he said he wouldn't start any new conflicts. He said the stock market would soar if he won, it's seen record losses. He said he'd stop the weaponisation of tthe DOJ, he's escalated that like never before. He has created strife and acrimony against many countries after he said that he would be the great negotiator.

    His actions with respect to immigration and tariffs are the closest he has come to his campaign promises. In both cases though it has profoundly more problematic than he thought it would be. China is taking him to school on tariffs and a small few immigration cases are steeling the judiciary to push back on him.

    With many of his campaign supporters already saying they regret voting for him, it's a long long way from what he promised.

    Meanwhile his opponents last November said he would bring chaos and the subjugation of democracy. Both of which he has done in abundance. He has signed an executive order direction the DOJ to launch investigations in to two Republicans who tentatively opposed him or spoke against him since 2020 for no other reason than they did so, that's a dictatorial move if ever there was one.

    Looking back at the campaign rhetoric of both Trump and his detractors last year, it's his detractors which are much closer to having been proven correct.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Easy on the eye doesn't help when she parrots blatant lies and BS.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    None of this is relevant to the Supreme Court's jurisdiction. The Act you linked gives the President power to do things, not the USSC. They make this very clear in their judgement, that they have no control over Foreign Affairs.

    The question was why can't the USSC send the US Marshal's to get the prisoner back, and the answer is that they have no authority or jurisdiction to do so. The same way they can't send them to take a prisoner from Ireland that we refuse to extradite. They could in theory send the US Marshall's to stop further extradition flights from taking off etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,237 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Can imagine she would be if you're into the whole Stepford Wives look. She just gives me the creeps, sociopaths usually do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭thomil


    I get what you're saying, but Ryanair has been, shall we say less than satisfied, with Boeing for some time now. The company relied massively on the 737 MAX to update its current fleet, much of which is made up of older Boeing 737-800s that were delivered in the early to mid 2000s. However, the ongoing issues with the 737 MAX, combined with the FAA-mandated reduction in aircraft production at Boeing's facilities at Everett and Renton mean that Boeing is significantly behind in aircraft deliveries, which has hobbled Ryanair's growth plans. So while O'Leary is a wind-up merchant of the highest order, there's some real beef between Ryanair and Boeing.

    That being said, I don't think there's much that Ryanair can do. Airbus doesn't have any spare capacities on their assembly lines, Toulouse, Hamburg and Mobile are flat out. What's more, the company has it's own set of headaches, namely in the shape of one of the engine options for the new Airbus A320neo, the Pratt & Whitney PW1000G engine, also known as the GTF or Geared Turbofan. These engines have significant reliability and vibration issues, leading to aircraft groundings, excessive engine changes, etc..

    Meanwhile, the COMAC C919 mentioned in one of the articles linked above hasn't even started the EASA certification process required for the type to be operated commercially in Europe, not to mention that there's absolutely no maintenance or spare parts infrastructure for it outside of China. And beyond that, there aren't really any options. The only other airliner in that size range is the MC-21 by Yakovlev, a Russian manufacturer, and that one is still undergoing flight tests & certification in Russia. And while I have no doubt that O'Leary wouldn't give a rodent's behind about ordering from Russia if it weren't for the sanction, he'll be keenly aware about how Irish airline Cityjet and Mexico's Interjet fared with another Russian airliner, Sukhoi's Superjet 100, whose reliability, maintenance issues and spare parts availability were so bad that the aircraft were dropped from operations after only a few years.

    So it looks like Ryanair is shackled to Boeing regardless of Trump's tariffs, not because O'Leary doesn't want to move away from them, but because he simply can't.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭trashcan


    If the administration wanted that guy returned all they have to do is say the word. Yes, the Supreme Court has no power to do it, but I don’t see why it isn’t open to them to hold Trump/his regime in contempt of court for refusing to comply with a court Order. Of course being in contempt of court probably wouldn’t matter a damn to Trump either. I really think the US has passed the point of constitutional crisis at this stage.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Yes, if the Administration wanted him back (assuming he is not already dead) they could do it tomorrow. My original comment was a very specific response to why the USSC can't send the Marshalls to enforce the order.

    The USSC (or more to the point the District Court) is moving towards contempt proceedings it looks like. The order was such that if they were remotely competent they could have left him there and still obeyed it, but it is wildly beyond their skill to do so. Instead they are just blatantly telling the world that they are ignoring the order. Things will likely get worse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Mattyonthepatty


    Different strokes for different folks as they say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭BP_RS3813


    None of them have a 'proper pair', they lost the election as they would not play dirty like he would… fight fire with fire and all that. Need to beat him at his own game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,441 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Beating him at his own game entails accepting that that is the game. Using Trump-like tactics to defeat Trump himself validates Trump-like tactics - the lies, the fraud, the corruption, the illegality, the cruelty, the subversion of democracy. If these are the tactics that you adopt, you can't claim to be opposing those tactics.

    Trump has to be defeated by the assertion of the rule of law, by the defence and vindication of the constitution. If he's defeated by other means, Trumpism wins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    Notice how nobody is talking about Signal gate anymore?

    Trump's America is so fxxked up that a real national security issue is soon forgotten about in a matter of days with nobody being made accountable and we just carry on to the next sxxt show from the Administration.

    Nobody is talking about Trumps failure to stop the war in Ukraine? When Trump couldn't blackmail Zelensky to take half a country's rare earth elements he abandoned Ukraine.

    Now China have suspended their exports of rare earth elements to America it looks like Trump may have had an actual plan in what he was demanding and reduce dependency on China.

    As always though, it's his failure to understand in politics he can't describe himself and America as winners and his allies as losers and think that this works in the geo-political sphere.

    It works in American politics but not with the rest of the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭BP_RS3813


    Doing those things to protect democracy is different to doing them to destroy it. You can oppose tactics but need them to get the to the end result if required.

    He is playing a game where by using his tactics, he has much more moves available then his opponents. Its the equivalent of not allowing yourself to use a certain piece on the chessboard…of course you will lose if they have a rook and you don't.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    Reading back the last few pages a see a lot of positive comments regarding Sanders and AOC.

    They both have good messages but unfortunately Sanders has been at this so long he can be seen as the old man shouting at clouds.

    I listened to AOC yesterday for about 10 minutes and I had to turn it off. Her voice was hurting my ears and as much as she was saying the right things eventually I didn't want to hear it. Kamala Harris had the same issue.

    These two are currently being championed to fill the void in the Democratic leadership but they just won't get the numbers to back them.

    I like Pete Buttigieg but again while he delivers a good message he comes across as too mild mannered.

    I don't see anybody yet in the Democratic party that has the charisma to lead an opposition and the MAGA republicans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭BP_RS3813


    Thats one thing Trump has going for him, confidence and charisma. His ability to go on stage in front of millions and talk absolute crap whether it be nonsense, lies or whatever. It really is unmatched and dangerous.

    Shows all you need is a few desperate enough people who aren't too bright and as long as you can speak well then you can have a cult of personality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Mattyonthepatty


    The American electorate voted Donald Trump as their President not once but twice, even winning the popular vote this time around. He made gains in huge chunks of traditional blue areas.

    America wants Donald Trump it's just as simple as that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,026 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I would argue he is a better candidate for father of the year than a 34 time convicted felon, who cheated on all of his wives, paid a porn star hush money to cover up having sex while his 3rd wife was at home with his newborn baby and who was found liable for sexual assault in a civil court, so people in glass houses.....

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    I think it's more that America didn't want Kamala Harris so he won by default.

    The democrats should have accepted long before that Joe Biden was not fit for a second term and had a younger more relatable candidate ready to run.

    It came across that Harris was thrown in a the deep end and she really wasn't prepared for running.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    Yes ultimately it is a flaw in humanity itself that it can be hacked by a charismatic persona and it has happened many times in history. No matter how many times the stupidity of it is highlighted and pointed out and the disastrous consequences laid bare in the pages of history for all to see, unremarkable and untalented people of average intelligence can rise to the very top of society by bluster and charisma. Ultimately I blame the media and its insatiable need for intrigue and drama. They need the likes of Trump. American politics especially is like a sort of extension of the celebrity and sporting culture focusing on personalities and intrigue. Trump absolutely thrives in that environment. Ratings and attention are his thing. He has been front page of world wide news since January. Where there have been one or two dips for a few days he storms back into the headlines with some new outrageous shite. If he goes quiet for a week you can expect something big. Many world leaders and people around the globe have and will start copping on and disengage from him and the US and wait him out. But of course he can and will do some real damage. And the monster craves that constant attention. It really is a low low point in American history re-electing him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,026 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    This may have legs as a theory, but who exactly is that better candidate?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Mattyonthepatty


    In recent times all the talk has been of the GOP being a party of outdated ideologies and being out of touch with the American electorate.

    It was in turn the Democrats who had lost their messaging and direction.

    I see Bernie sanders and AOC are doing some rallies as of late but their messaging seems to be the same as the Democrats messaging of the last 8 years of "Anti Trump". Change the record DNC for crying out loud, he can't even run again in 2028.

    The DNC will have to come up with a brand new play book over next 18 months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Unless they have 2 Queens!

    The trouble with Trump is that he thinks that the King is the most powerful piece and spends all his time going back and forth to the same few squares, letting other pieces get obliterated and ruining the game for everyone else.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭halkar


    That shows how inexperienced politician he is. Number one rule of politicians is you don't do what you say in election campaigns. 😁



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