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Arcade & Retro Repairs & Mods, all new recipe, with no added MSG...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,283 ✭✭✭MrVestek


    Speaking of the Naomi Driving Cab, turns out the Sega Sun PSU won't power up my Naomi board by itself as it only seems to be outputting 9v on the 12v rail. 3.3v and 5v are fine.

    I'm not finding an adjustment pot for the 12v. I assume that the only way to sort it out is to recap the entire thing, yeah?

    I've gone ahead and ordered an ATX to JVS PSU adapter cable and will use an old ATX PSU that I have knocking about to power the NAOMI but I won't get that until well in the new year as the Ebay shop that I bought it from is off until the new year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,410 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Suggestion that ATX conversion will do it, but they aren't adjustable if ever needed - info.

    I think I replaced the PSU fan in my Naomi cab when I got it, it was super noisey (along with the mainboard system fan and *PU fans)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,283 ✭✭✭MrVestek


    I was actually looking at that very site earlier believe it or not. If the converter cable doesn't work or isn't suitable for whatever reason I'll just recap the original PSU.

    For those with more experience than I: can I discharge the caps by shorting the legs together?

    I don't want to accidentally shock myself when removing the original caps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,601 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I've a Gamegear that was recapped ten or twelve years ago. It does that thing now when you switch it on it comes on for a second and then turns off.

    Did a bit of googling to see what the solution might be and a guy had some luck rechecking the caps and giving them a bit of a clean.

    So I opened her up and... Holy moly, corrosion town!

    Really bad on the audio board. I managed to clean it all off and the traces seemed fine. (Pic below is pre cleaning)

    PXL_20250122_212511467.jpg

    Still no booting.

    Turned my eye to the power part of the board and found the problem. Every single cap here has leaked to some degree. Quite a few traces destroyed.

    Can really see some of the trace damage here at R52 and R42.

    Edit - I checked against some main board scans and it looks to just be that R52 trace thats gone.

    PXL_20250122_215137991.jpg

    The caps themselves all actually look fine. No bulging or anything. Seems they were lying flat and touching the PCB - where they made contact with the board caused corrosion.

    Going to keep cleaning it up and see what I can do. It's just a random Gamegear I picked up many moons ago so should make a good sacrificial lamb to test out my new iron!

    Post edited by o1s1n on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Jesus, was that my work before I learned to properly solder?? I remember doing a GG for you a long time back, and bypassing a trace on the sound board I think (along with caps).

    If that was my work, buy a ceramic cap kit for it and get it back to me, I'll redo it on the house.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,601 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Ah man don't worry about it! Absolutely everything you've ever modded for me still works 100%. Even mad stuff like that home made Nomad charger for the battery pack.

    I think this was one of the first things and it might actually have been up to 15 years ago. So could just be natural entropy from the caps being old again.

    It's gas when you start thinking about 'new' mods and fixes you had done approaching the age the original replaced components were.

    Time stops for no man!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,283 ✭✭✭MrVestek


    So curiosity finally got the better of me and I got in behind the Blast City and undid the CRT maintenance hatch and I figured out what the issue is. There's arcing directly at the bottom of the flyback.

    Looks like the flyback is toast.

    Again, no idea how disconnecting the VGA cable would have caused this to happen.

    Now, do I send it back over to grant for another repair or do I try to see if I can get a suitable flyback replacement and attempt the repair myself?

    edit

    I've just sent a message to Gunblade over on UkVac to see if he'll take a crack at it.

    UUUUUUGH. People aren't kidding when they say that these Wei Ya chassis are shite lol.

    I still don't understand why disconnecting a VGA cable would cause such an issue. I've asked him as much. I guess I'll see what he says.

    Post edited by MrVestek on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭80s Synth Pop


    Can I ask how does it work sending to grant now with brexit?

    I've been using a Spanish company but it's quite expensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,283 ✭✭✭MrVestek


    I think the way that it worked last time was that I marked it as for service and repair when I sent it over so that he wouldn't get charged.

    He did he repair and filled out the appropriate info on the invoice including UK vat paid.

    Then when I got it back I had to pay local taxes on it.

    Can get a bit expensive but worth it to get it to an expert.

    He's awaiting new flyback stock so I'll have to hit him up again in a few weeks.

    He's also flabbergasted as to why removing the vga cable would have caused the flyback to go kaput as all that should have happened is that the screen should have just auto switched from 33khz back to the default of 15khz.

    If I didn't love that machine so much I'd be selling it at this stage 🤣



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,601 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Have any of you gents had any luck recently replaced the laser in a PS1? If so, got a link to where you bought it?

    I have a PS1 that isn't reading games, fiddled about with the laser pot but it's definitely on the way out.

    All of the options available online look to be aliexpress specials..which I imagine would be quite poor in quality.

    Edit - after a bit of reading around it looks like all replacement laser units are indeed junk. Apparently regreasing the tracks/rail on the unit might actually work. Will give that a go.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,410 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    In the past, I ended up buying cheap (at the time) PSOne consoles which seemed to have easier lifes than PS1 consoles. I think there is only one type of PSOne laser unit but a few for the original consoles, so which PS1 units can take a PSOne unit you'd need to research. For that authentic'ness (turns out, you need to due to a slightly different shape), you can remove the grey laser unit cover and use the PS1 cover :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,912 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    I replaced the PS1 laser assembly late last year with aliexpress well reviewed new replacements. They were 25 euro each, but are very fussy in what they read. So junk basically.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,601 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Thanks guys - I'd actually forgotten just how cheap you can buy them on ebay. Managed to nab a working later version model SCPH 7502 which apparently Sony fixed some of the FMV stuttering and laser issues with.

    Was only €28 delivered from an Irish seller so practically the same as I was going to spend on the replacement drive!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,601 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Decided last night to try another go at fixing my n64 DD. There really is bugger all info online about getting them going again.

    I get an 'Error 01' - which means there's either a fault with the drive or the disk. Not very specific!

    One of the fixes is to open it up and get the head moving again as it can get stuck. I actually did this a few years ago, turns out the head was indeed stuck. Got it moving again, but still gives the Error 01.

    So this time I thought I'd attack the heads with absolutely loads of isoproyl alcohol - still no luck!

    The really frustrating thing is, for all I know, whe I got the head moving again it actually solved the problem and the issue now lies with the disk itself. I've checked the disk though and it's minty clean. Like it's never been used (still might be corrupted media, mind you)

    'So just try it with another disk?' - great solution if the games weren't so fecking expensive. Probably talking about 100-150 euro for the cheapest disk out there.

    Anyone got any solutions? Don't suppose someone has a verified DD game disk out there I could borrow?

    Post edited by o1s1n on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Inviere


    I'll take it off your hands, I don't see any other solutions than that really....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Inviere


    I did find this tbough:

    Maybe the disk is faulty beyond repair, like the one talked about in the story.
    One detail is that when a disk is corrupted and the drive is working, you shouldn’t have Error 01, but Error 23 (Unrecovered Read Error), 24 (No Reference Position Found), or 25 (Track Following Error). The 2x range is about the disk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,601 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Good find, the writeup that's from is exactly what I'm experiencing.

    I think I'll pop it open again and try a q tip with IPA at a right angle, didn't occur to me to do it like that. Might actually yeild better results.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,601 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    This PS1 was delivered and is super minty, disk drive works perfectly.

    I got it hooked up with a link cable to my other one and was thinking I must pick up a couple of copies of Red Alert.

    Decided to go digging through games and found one copy... Then realised it's a two disc game haha. Linked up perfectly.

    Can really see the difference between RGB and RF. Will see if I can dial that RF signal in a bit better.

    PXL_20250402_183438582.jpg

    Still, should be a lot of fun. I kind of want to get another PS2 now for some linked Time Crisis 2!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,601 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I think I may be onto something here, I had a good look over everything last night and it looks like one of the ribbon cables is a bit damaged.

    two of the copper pins are actually lifting from the top of the cable. They're still attached, but when you plug the cable out they've actually folded backwards while being inserted, so potentially not making a connection (or even shorting the pins next to them).

    This cable in particular sends power to the spindle motor. It's the ribbon on the left here. Pin 1 and pin four are impacted.

    PXL_20250402_190505094.jpg

    Even better, unlike the gold ribbon cable that connects to the read heads (which is 100% fine), this is a very generic replacable part.

    Looks very similar to this;

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/175914782970?var=475337141661&gQT=1

    I'll see if I can read the specs from the cable in there. Would be fantastic if it was the same as the above. The one in the console is actually ridiculously short too so would be great to get a replacement with a bit more slack.

    It's highly possible when I stick the new cable in it'll fire up the spindle motor and read the disk…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Inviere


    I ran into the exact same issue with the recent Wii Mini work I done. The ribbon that connects the power button board to the mainboard is made of cotton wool or something, because after a few times connecting/disconnecting, the pins delaminate and bend backwards. I bought a pack of matching ones from Ali, same pitch, pin count, forward direction, but longer cables….worked an absolute charm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,601 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    That's really great to hear. So from what I gather, the things to look out for are pin count, pitch of the pins .. what's the story with the direction? Do they only send data one way?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Inviere


    From what I gather it's if the ribbon is cross cabled or not, ie, pin 1 on one end connects with pin 10 on the other end - i THINK anyway, I could be wrong. Forward means that pin 1 on one end, connects in a straight line to the pin on the direct opposite end. So you could check the existing ribbon with a multimeter, see if the pins are just wired in a straight line with a continuity check, I imagine they are. If so, forward direction is what you want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,601 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Thanks man! Thats what I was thinking alright, it just looks to be connecting 11 pins from the main board to the disk drive.

    Can see the damage here. Pin 1 and 4 have definitely come away.

    PXL_20250403_190801502.jpg

    Cable specs ahoy;

    PXL_20250403_190721553.jpg

    Seems I'm looking for a 1mm pitch, 11 pin 15cm jobbie. Might try to find a 20cm one for some wiggle room.

    Edit - ordered three from China. We shall revisit this in a month!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,410 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Anyone tinker with USB4MAPLE for the Dreamcast?

    https://www.dreamcast-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17404

    Was looking to pickup a mouse for the console but the prices are a little wild. Search for USB adapters for the system, and the USB4MAPLE Pi Pico solution popped up. Waiting on a cheap controller extension cable to arrive now to try it out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,730 ✭✭✭The Last Bandit


    Oh that looks handy, is the firmware available I wonder?

    I did try to get the Dreamcast working with my jammacon but could never get the maplebus figured out :(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,283 ✭✭✭MrVestek


    I replaced the entire assembly in my launch PS1 with one from a broken PSOne.

    It works fine but doesn't fit properly unless you shave down the case a bit with a Dremel.

    In other news there's nothing like going to the effort of de-capping a Sun JVS PSU for your Naomi driving cab (it was only giving 9v on the 12v line so the Naomi won't boot up) only to realise that the replacement caps that you bought from digikey were for a completely different (but similar) model! Well that was a waste of money.

    The new (and correct) set of caps are on their way from digikey as we speak.

    First time working on a PSU too and I've managed to not kill myself!

    1000113292.jpg

    The chassis from my Blast City's CRT is also with Gun blade/Grant at the minute too. He's retrofitting a brand new flyback as well as repairing some other damage.

    He couldn't figure out why simply removing the VGA cable caused it to happen other than some random failure during a resolution change indicating that the flyback was probably already failing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Inviere


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    ^^ My current project, and it's putting up a bit of a fight. Unusual to see Rubycons go like this...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,283 ✭✭✭MrVestek


    Got Crazy Taxi booted after figuring out why the PSU kept dropping down to 6v on the 12v rail.

    (Turns out it does that when you connect the I/O board incorrectly 😅).

    My first PSU recap was a success!

    1000113504.jpg

    Now it looks like there's an issue with the monitor. It's not outputting any green colours. I'm hoping that's just a pot replacement otherwise I might have to hit up @dav09 for a screen replacement 🤣

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,601 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Jesus! what unholy mess is that 😯 definitely got your work cut out there.

    Man, you've had some seriously bad luck with your cabinets the last while. That really sucks. Particularly after putting the effort in to recap the PSU.

    At least it's firing up though so that's a major hurdle passed. I'd imagine that lack of green is just something up with the chassis. Shame you didn't send that one off to Grant with the blast one! :(



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