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This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭TakeTheVeil


    Any thoughts/concerns on this one other than the high mileage?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,612 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    No looks clean, check services have been hit on time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Tango One


    Am I right or wrong in my thinking if buying an EV from the UK, its value is under 50K, less than 3 years old(2022 car or newer) and was built in the EU you can avoid all import taxes, VAT and VRT due to return goods relief and VRT credit of 5K?.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭FaganJr


    According to AI:

    Your thinking is partially correct, but there are some important nuances and potential pitfalls to consider when importing an EV from the UK to Ireland under the conditions you’ve described. Here’s a breakdown:

    1. Returned Goods Relief (RGR) – Avoiding VAT & Duty

    • RGR applies if the car was originally exported from the EU (e.g., UK when it was still in the EU) and is being returned in an "unchanged state."
    • Since the UK left the EU, cars first registered in the UK after 31 December 2020 are no longer considered EU goods, meaning RGR may not apply unless the car was originally exported from the EU to the UK before 2021.
    • If the car was manufactured in the EU but first registered in the UK after Brexit (2021 onwards), it is not eligible for RGR, meaning you must pay VAT (23%) and possibly duty (10%) upon import to Ireland.

    2. VRT (Vehicle Registration Tax) & €5,000 Credit

    • VRT is still due on all imported vehicles unless exempt (e.g., diplomatic, military, etc.).
    • The €5,000 VRT relief applies only to new (not used) EVs imported from the UK or elsewhere. Since your car is used (2022 or newer), you do not qualify for the €5,000 relief.
    • However, VRT for used EVs is still lower than for ICE vehicles, calculated based on OMSP (Open Market Selling Price) and emissions (€0 for full BEVs).

    3. No Customs Duty if Car was EU-Made (But VAT Still Applies)

    • Under the UK-EU Trade Agreement, cars made in the EU (even if imported from the UK) do not incur customs duty.
    • However, Irish VAT (23%) still applies unless RGR applies (which, as mentioned, is unlikely for post-2020 UK-registered cars).

    Key Takeaways:

    No customs duty if the car was built in the EU (even if imported from the UK).
    No RGR relief (so 23% VAT applies) unless the car was originally exported from the EU to the UK pre-2021.
    No €5,000 VRT credit (only for new EVs).
    Lower VRT rate (€0 for full BEVs, but still based on OMSP).

    Final Verdict:

    • You will likely have to pay:
      • 23% VAT on the purchase price (unless RGR applies, which is rare for post-Brexit cars).
      • VRT (but €0 for full BEVs, though admin fees still apply).
    • You will avoid:
      • Customs duty (if the car was EU-made).
      • No €5,000 relief (since the car is used).

    Recommendation:

    Check the car’s date of first registration in the UK and whether it was originally exported from the EU to see if RGR applies. Otherwise, budget for 23% VAT + VRT.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,363 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    No. To avoid the 10% customs charge the car needs to have been manufactured in the EU less than 3 years ago. There is a difference between date of manufacture and date of registration. VAT is still due on import.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Tango One


    Thanks reading the note on revenue make it clear,

    "The relief from VAT is only allowed if the person that re-imports the goods is the same person who originally exported them"

    Little further reading on revenue, someone living in the north could buy a car from the UK register it in the north put it through an mot and sell it straight to the south with the buyer avoiding duty and vat.

    Taken from revenue.

    • a copy of the V5C showing the last registered keeper in NI and a date of registration to that keeper
    • a Ministry of Transport (MOT) test history in NI.

    A dealer could avoid this if the car is properly declared as an import into north Ireland.

    Post edited by Tango One on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭Technique


    Cheapest 2022 M3P I've seen by some distance

    http://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/tesla-model-3-performance-awd-pqp2s5-pqp2s5n-4dr/39402753



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    €192 E-Golf with 65K miles for €12K asking. Base Model. Might be got for €11K-€11.5K. https://www.donedeal.ie/view/39391445



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,868 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Another seller with one of those wonky cameras. Most photos at 45 degree angle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Aftermarket tint on the rear window too if that’s an issue.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Shouldn't be an issue once it’s done neatly. Every Model 3 in the country with tints are aftermarket so nothing new.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,519 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,413 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    It looks very cheap when you compared to a same year golf GTI/R and it’ll smoke either of them. Still under Tesla warranty as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Firblog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,868 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    MMust Be getting no interest, probably due to the ToTheMoonAndBack mileage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,965 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    based on my PCP offer I only lost 8k in 3 years. The pcp was less than my previous fuel costs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,749 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    It's to make them look edgy and cool. Check out the sun flare on the bonnet 😂

    Or the seller has really bad arthritis and can turn the full landscape position one is supposed to take car photos with.

    Points lost for the nasty New Balance trainers under the blue footwell lights. I was half expecting to see a replica Jackson Pollock painting.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    These might all be positives, less likely to get interest and might be more amenable to a haggle when a bargain hunter strikes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,749 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Oh for sure. I love when the photos look they are are taken by a 2 year old on mammies phone. That's the car I would be viewing after a week or two of no calls.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,476 ✭✭✭obi604




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    219K Km’s if that 136K is miles. Most buyers wanting one will probably pay €2K -€3K more for a one with some battery warranty left. Decent car for the money though if mileage doesn’t bother you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,391 ✭✭✭Buffman


    Getting that front bumper fixed/replaced won't be cheap if you're not able to DIY it, presumably why the dealer didn't bother getting it done when he got it in March and just taped it up enough to get through an NCT.

    At least he's now added a proper photo of the damage. Him not mentioning it being an ex-Taxi in the ad might be an issue for potential buyers.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,363 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Looks like a fairly standard respray job to me. Can be fixed for as little as €200 or so



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Doesn’t say much for the NCT centre if they passed the car with a bumper like that ? Will probably cost €500 - €600 to get a spurious or used bumper skin painted and fitted. A smart repair/bodge job will probably be half that. It’s still a lot of car for the money if mileage isn’t a concern.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,363 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    As long as theres no sharp edges its perfectly acceptable to pass the NCT



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Yes which it doesn’t say much for it as a roadworthiness test. Plenty sharp edges there under the silage tape. Obviously the previous owner didn’t take much pride in his workhorse.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Been for sale for months.
    decent spec, glass roof, allows, privacy glass.
    high miles but I Wouldn’t be worried about this at this price range. But there’s small body damage too.

    It’s a €10k car to make it a decent buy for someone to use and not care about IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,391 ✭✭✭Buffman


    Presumably if it was only paint damage he wouldn't need all that tape to cover it over, I'm assuming there's a few cracks under there that will potentially need welding/filling/spraying to fix it.

    It would have been nice if he'd have put up a photo of the damage before covering it over. Any potential buyer would need to see under the tape to be sure.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Judging by the amount of tape, you can assume it needs a new bumper skin to repair properly. Front bumpers are hard got second hand but you might get lucky. Given it has a valid NCT, you could drive it away for a bit in the hope one would turn up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,391 ✭✭✭Buffman


    52kWh Zoe with a bit of warranty left asking €9500.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-zoe-electric-automatic/39037718

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