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Keyless vehicle robbed

  • 11-04-2025 07:55PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭


    I have vehicle that in UK are being robbed big time keyless Entry make it easier to robbed from what I see online. Is there much of it happening in Ireland?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,730 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Have you tried Google?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,155 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Latest way is to cut in to wiring loom for certain models and connect device that allows for car to be unlocked and driven away. The device is a few grand and not something your average joyrider will ever have, these will be stolen to order by professionals and likely shipped out of the country. A ghost immobilizer is one solution or talk to your dealer who may have an alternative solution.

    It doesn't seem to have any similar stats here on those top 10 models stolen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭JayRoc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Yes cars are being robbed using keyless entry. They are also using tow trucks and just lifting them. They can disable standard tracking systems that come with the car. Often the entire car is shipped abroad or stripped for parts. It's far worse in mainland Europe where entire car is transported to eastern Europe or Africa.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    Let's all pile on the OP!!…yay!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭watchclocker


    How is everyone finding it so hard to figure out

    OP has a keyless car, in the UK those cars are being robbed a lot, he's wondering if it's happening in Ireland

    Have heard of it OP but don't know if it's a big thing, I always think the stories I've heard are urban myths as they've never been first hand



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭Raichų


    same question- clear as day what they’re asking.

    Suppose any car is liable for being robbed I can’t see myself worrying more than usual because it’s keyless. Don’t leave it unlocked and if feasible parked somewhere with CCTV even.

    Look you’ve insurance on it for a reason I really wouldn’t be stressing myself over it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,539 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Range Rover/Land Rover?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭monseiur


    Are steering wheel locks a good deterrent or a waste of money, Halfords sell on type for around €40



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,730 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Would be of some use alright. Unless they lift it onto a truck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭Whocare


    Navara have same problem on Facebook forum in UK being stolen big time over there literally walk up to it open door and gone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭Whocare


    Yeah that what some people are fitting aswell as pedals barrier and Ghost immorbisers ect . Seen online some farmer had he hilux robbed in mart in Ireland and he had keys

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    Thieves can also copy your key’s signal at a distance when you park at a mall, say, and make a key from the captured signal. I click the lock button once while clicking twice the unlock one to disable the key so they can’t copy it. It also saves the battery.

    Here in Montreal, Canada, a lot of cars are stolen and shipped to Africa and Middle East. Thousands of my model car are stolen, courtesy of the West End Gang aka the Irish Mafia, lol.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,707 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    The keyless card needs to stored in a faraday wallet or box. This stops the thieves standing between the house and the car and relaying the signal from keyless card to the car to open it and start it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    You could fit a killswitch either to the fuel or battery that would not allow the car to start. I was looking it up and it seems like something you could probably do yourself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Sam the Sham


    Surely the keys don’t transmit all the time. I know the keys for my VW stop transmitting when they haven’t been moved for a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,707 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    They used too. It seems the tech has moved on like yours but doesn't mean that all cars have adapted it or that it might be an older model.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,273 ✭✭✭kirving


    It depends on the model, and there are a wide range of types available.

    Newer models will (should) be resistant to relay attacks by both powering down the key when it's stationary, and also by measuring the signal time of flight between the car and the key.

    Quite a few cars will disable the keyless feature too, if you double click the lock button.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,899 ✭✭✭User1998


    I’ve actually heard that they are being stolen a lot. Probably nowhere near as much in Ireland as the UK. You could get a Ghost Immobiliser if your concerned



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    A lot (most?) fobs don't broadcast the signal if there's been a set period of no movement these days.

    Edit, others already made the same point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭Cerco


    Yes perhaps, but in what year were the new fobs widely available ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,686 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I click the lock button once while clicking twice the unlock one to disable the key so they can’t copy it. It also saves the battery.

    Could you explain how this approach works please?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    Yes, it disables the key, so you don’t need a faraday pouch or a box to stop the signal it sends to would be thieves. If left enabled, they can follow you around and copy it in order to make a key.

    They can also scan to grab a signal from near your house entry points, if for instance you left your key in a coat pocket, or in a hook near your entrace.


    This is for the later generation cars that use fobs with push button start. The older keys would leave the owner less susceptible to theft .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    Is this what you're talking about?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,686 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Does this work for EVERY car manufacturer? EVERY model?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    No idea, never heard of it before and was gonna query it until I saw you had. I'll check it out on my own one at home, but we use a pouch anyway.

    Someone I play astro football with had their car stolen one week. The guards said, based on the CCTV, that it was someone copying the signal from their fob when they locked/opened it as they were getting stuff out of the boot. They just waltzed up and blipped their own fob, started her up and drove away. I was always dubious about this stuff until that happened, made me buy a pouch in the first place. Car won't start if key is in pouch, while I'm sat in the car holding the pouch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    Yes, exactly.

    If you are sitting in your car and listening to the radio for a while, you are making yourself vulnerable, too. That is, your key is active if you need to use power from your car if you are stationary. The thieves could also hide a tracking device to find your car when you are driving back home, and decide on where they decide to steal your car.



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