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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭Terence Rattigan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,223 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Yeah I get you. It'd make you wonder why the US made itself so reliant on a cold war adversary in the first place.

    Would it not have been better to have more of that cheap labour in places like south east Asia (excluding china), India especially and maybe even Africa?

    Do you lads reckon the dollar will drop further? It suits me for some purchases I make the weaker it gets Vs the Euro. Bought $100 of credit today as the rate is good. Should I hold off a few weeks before buying more?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,223 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    From the BBC

    "Before the tariff war kicked in, China did have a massive volume of sales to the US but, to put it into context, this only amounted to 2% of its GDP.

    That said, the Communist Party would clearly prefer not to be locked in a trade war with the US at a time when it has been struggling to fix its own considerable economic headaches, after years of a real estate crisis, overblown regional debt and persistent youth unemployment."

    With China trying to team up with the EU, the EU should use that as leverage with Trump to increase military support for Ukraine or else. Ukraine is the number 1 issue for the EU and China is the number 1 issue for the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,202 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    But even as his companies did poorly, Mr. Trump did well. He put up little of his own money, shifted personal debts to the casinos and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonuses and other payments. The burden of his failures fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen.

    That right there is the American dream right there for a lot of uber capitalist people. Gaming the system to maximise your gains and shifting cost on to others. A lot of Trump fans would genuinely read that and applaud.

    I lived in the US during Covid and a guy I knew there was working in a company that had to make cost cuts when the pandemic hit. They had two options, a 10% pay cut or a 10% headcount cut. They put it to an employee vote and the employees voted overwhelmingly for the headcount cut. I asked him to explain and he said that most people felt they wouldn't be in the 10% so why should they lose money to save them. Trump fans, like the ones posting videos saying they voted for him but regret it because they lost their job or whatever, would still look at him and think they wouldn't be the ones left holding the can for his bad decisions and would back him. Look at his meme coins and how that has been manipulated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,214 ✭✭✭FishOnABike




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭All_in_Flynn


    Dollar is taking a beating. The utter stupidity of this is very hard to comprehend. Looking forward to how he tries to spin it as a win when he pauses the tariffs on China. Surely this cannot go on much longer!?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,184 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Nah

    People starting to realise he's only holding the jokers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Neowise


    Same way as brexit spun it? Its makes their exports more affordable!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,405 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I would have never thought we would get a live example of what it would have looked like if they hadn't put a stop to Liz Truss.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,512 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Xi smells blood with Trump.

    Both sides will suffer damage but the USA is far more exposed and Trump's also isolated himself right from the beginning.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭yagan


    To use a Trump quip Xi holds all the cards.

    China can continue trading with the world without US imports whereas Chinese goods are critical all through US supply chains.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,715 ✭✭✭amandstu


    A lower dollar would make it harder for a conscientious boycotter like yt (I would boycott them "just" for physically threatening Canada and Greenland.)

    What have they got worth buying?

    By the way what is this fixation with iphones? I never had one .Are there things you can only do with one of them rather than an android phone to jusify the huge difference in price.?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,405 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    I don’t want to go too off-topic here. For me personally, if I have to choose Apple or Google, it’ll be Apple. Reluctantly, because I’m not mad about either of them, but I’m more suspicious of Google.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,759 ✭✭✭Damien360


    I bet you have linked all your google services on the iPhone negating that caution. We are swaying off topic so I’ll leave it there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,715 ✭✭✭amandstu


    It feels sick wishing for China to come out on top but maybe that is a short term fix for fixing dumb.

    As they say ,no winners here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭yagan


    What did they do wrong?

    They copied Irelands fdi model from the Shannon free zone onwards, a trip to Shannon to see where it all began is as traditional for Chinese leaders as brining a bowl of shamrock to the oval office.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,715 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I feel sick wishing China well in a confrontation with America because they are a constitutional dictatorship and have noone's best interests at heart either at home or abroad.

    Their revolution was justified but they have not returned power to the Chinese people and remain a blight on the political landscape -a status America aspires to and is working towards.

    China may seem to be the "good guy" within limited parameters here but,just an example Ukraine says it has captured a Chinese fighter and estimates some 150 more at large.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    So with the Irish Data Protection Commission opening of an investigation into the Grok AI on X and it's processing of personal data.

    No doubt Elon will be on the case and will have Trump and Vance passing comment very soon saying….free speech something…they treat us terribly something…..we need to take X jobs out of Dublin and back to America something something



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,580 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    China raises tariffs on US goods to 125% as it slams Trump for 'defying basic economic laws and common sense

    Isn’t that a great quote from China- just simple, calling it for what it is. Trump can’t go forward with his plans when he gets a response that even a 6 year old kid would understand

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14598461/China-raises-tariffs-US-Trump-defying-laws.html



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,807 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    US treasury yields are still rocketing up, the bond markets are pricing in the US economy falling off a cliff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Pardon my ignorance here, but does this mean that grok has been scraping personal data from twitter users accounts?

    If that's the case, I'd imagine that would be a big no no under EU rules?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭yagan


    Steven seagal became a Russia citizen because he loved the whole stonk culture. There might even be an Irish merc fighting for Russia right now.

    China doesn't care about being the good guy, it cares only about never allowing the century of humiliation to happen again.

    It's a capitalistic society with communistic features. Unlike the USSR Chinese had property rights.

    The nationalists lost because they tried to uphold feudalism. That's why so many Chinese sided with Mao, especially woman who had been denied education in the traditional society.

    Xi is on the way out, the next leader is going to be a salesman.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,405 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    150 mercs from a country the size of China is nothing really.

    Did you blame Ireland as a country when a couple of Irish people got caught doing Merc work for dodgy fekers ?

    Nobody is fooled by China but I have noticed a lot of tutting and faux outrage the last few days because they are embarrassing Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,375 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Your monthly reminder that Trump still hasn't fulfilled his promise to end the war in Ukraine on day one....

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    3 months and counting....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭yagan


    After decades of doing well off the Chinese economy of scale that no one else could provide now we have people parroting Trump about being the victim.

    duplo is about the only phone the US can make now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,580 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    When America’s only friends are Russia and a few dictatorships in South America you know the writing is on the wall for this administration



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭halkar


    Trump is getting more like Comical Ali day by day

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,353 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The real shame of this tariff nonsense is how much smaller businesses and niche industries will pay the price.

    Based on some online quarters I frequent, the board game industry is a good example of this. Quite complex international production and shipping, often with long lead in times between orders and deliveries due to the prevalence of crowdfunding campaigns. Some companies face potentially fatal price increases on the back of what's happening with the absurd China tariffs or even the 10% tariff on other countries. And while others have long planned for regional production so will survive, there simply isn't anywhere enough capacity and knowledge for everyone to suddenly pivot to US production, not even factoring in the potentially unviable costs.

    Hard to feel much sympathy for larger corporations in all this, but they're not the only ones that are going to take the hit. Plenty of successful businesses in their own right now face catastrophe through no fault of their own, just the petulance of one man.



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