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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,602 ✭✭✭valoren


    Capitulation Day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,987 ✭✭✭thomil


    The ongoing tariff fiasco is farm, far worse than any of the ones you mentioned, or the likes of Iran Contra.

    Lewinsky was a storm in a teacup, blown (no pun intended) out of proportion by a GOP baying for blood

    Watergate was bad, but essentially a domestic affair with limited to no effect on foreign or trade policy

    Bay of Pigs was bad as well, and helped set the stage for the Cuban Missile Crisis, but wasn't exactly unexpected, nor was it unprecedented. The US had moved against unwelcome governments in its "back yard" before under the guise of the Monroe Doctrine, and the 1954 Guatemala coup had been conducted by the same people who'd started the planning for what eventually became Operation Mars, the landing in the Bay of Pigs.

    All of these were either of limited scope or in line with existing US policies. Meanwhile, the tariff tantrums by the tangerine of terror are completely out of line with previous US policies, serve no clear purpose either internationally or domestically and are simply the actions of a middle school bully who's gotten away with his shtick for too long. It will take decades to repair this damage, if it can be repaired at all.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,861 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Yeah sure, the magical 75 countries that called up to kiss his ass

    Zero chance of a list of those, the 10% is for all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    So much for those brexit idiots last week celebrating their 10% tariff. One over on the EU. 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭CFlat




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Its students visa and green cards not tourist visas yet anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,747 ✭✭✭yagan


    Any Irish SME currently trading to the USA will have to add in an anti business tariff tantrum risk factor from now on. It's actually easier to simply explore new markets that actually want business.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,602 ✭✭✭valoren


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    Post edited by valoren on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,247 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Doesn't matter if huge manipulation of markets has taken place, coz Chyna bad.

    The orange moron has hamstrung the US for years to come



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,675 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    The White House itself don't even know, they're making it up on the hoof.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,037 ✭✭✭golfball37


    It’s hard to know reading the last few pages if people are happy or sad about the backtrack.
    Trump is treating the job like a reality tv show. When people stopped watching big brother they ended it.. Stop giving him oxygen and start working out how we avoid an absolute cluster of our own making by planning for a future without handouts to big pharma.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    What China will do now is match Trumps latest tariff.

    But If they were clever, China's checkmate would be to delay ALL shipments from China to the USA for 90 days. Think about that one and the effects it would have.

    Would be a brilliant move.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭KilOit


    America is finished, can see China emerging from all this as a ruling superpower, America can only be saved if the whole Trump cabinet gets smoked



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,619 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    That's the advantage of the 90 days. Time for the EU to start making proper plans and have them ready if Trump decides to do it again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭riddles


    I think he’s compounding his errors with China. The year of the snake and all that!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,977 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Surely everyone is happy but being happy at the backtrack does not mean the people who voted for this child and support this child are not f wits



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    There's more of a cult on here than there is supporting Trump. Same posters for the last 10 years rambling on, they dont have a clue what they want now. We are at the stage where they are actively supporting China, one of the most anti-democratic, anti-free trade and anti-globalist country in the world. Everyone seems to be forgetting it is an authoritarian state.🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,957 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    "Big Pharma" paid five and a half billion in corporation tax last year. Handouts are working.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,304 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    That's most Irish people on social media screwed if they want to visit that basket case country. I hate Israel more than anything but some of my heroes are Jews!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,247 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Any republicans still backing him by this time tomorrow should be treated with utter suspicion. I can hardly believe that there is anyone in his orbit that still thinks that what he is doing is the right thing.

    Let alone the U-Turn; they can play that off as part of the deal.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,037 ✭✭✭golfball37


    Same attitude was taken with stamp duty. The 2007 election campaign looks very embarrassing now in hindsight. This pharma money is going sooner than we think and I think we should be grown up about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Bbc unsure if EU are included.

    But we have some questions.

    • It's not clear if this reprieve applies to the EU, which today approved retaliatory tariffs against the US. A shouted question at the White House press "gaggle" went unanswered
    • We're not sure if Canada and Mexico are included in this 10% rate - especially since Canada's retaliatory tariffs came into effect this morning
    • It's not clear how this interacts with tariffs already in place, such as the 25% tariffs on foreign steel, aluminium and car parts

    Comments made by Trump to the press just now at a Nascar event didn't clarify these questions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,344 ✭✭✭trashcan


    Saw a joke on Facebook today. How many MAGA members does it take to change a lightbulb ? None. They’ll trust Trump when he tells them it’s fixed, and applaud in the darkness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    RTE news : An 'extraordinary' post and the big initial questions

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0409/1506785-analysis-trump-announcement/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Not that logic matters a whit with the US and Trumpy, but what the EU announced is as far as I understand the response to the metals and vehicles tariffs the US has already put on us, what feels like months or even years ago (but is actually a few weeks??).

    It was not about his "liberation day" (lol) 20 % tariffs. Any EU response to that is yet to come (another few weeks I suppose, though what else will have happened by then is anyone's guess).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,957 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Pharma's going nowhere. They have billions invested and need an EU base regardless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,344 ✭✭✭trashcan


    ….



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,590 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Every Republican should be treated with utter contempt regardless, even before Trump came on the scene.

    But all they have now is fealty to their moron king, so I’d have little doubt they’ll continue kissing the ring barring some new unforeseen calamity. They’ll continue claiming he’s playing 4D chess all along when we can all see the man doesn’t know what a pawn is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Yep the biggest and most costly damage Trump has done in the last week to brand USA is reputational. Very hard to undo that.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,929 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Trump showing to be weak and flailing around like a fool



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