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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Read OP for mod warnings before posting*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    So you have read the terms and conditions of this scheme?

    Utter waffle in this post.

    to someone who has literally just rocked up with no connection to the country seems off to put it mildly. 

    You haven't a clue about this scheme its not even paid to an individual. Its to a group.

    https://rethinkireland.ie/current_fund/connected-communities-fund-2025-2028/

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    It's far from nonsense. It's the only option. We had the workers in the early 2000s we will have them again.

    Everytime there has been housing issues in this country they have been solved by building. 30s,40s, 50s all saw massive government building.

    Do you know how Finland solved their homeless problem? They built accomodation and houses people. Radical eh?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,278 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    You tell me how we will have the workers like we did decades ago.

    That is a statement of fact that I am expecting you can tell me how.

    The government pushed for people to go to college and trades were not as popular.

    Our young are moving to Australia because they can't get housed.

    The people who built decades ago are retiring each year and are not being replaced.

    We will not be able to match the current output in a decade if they don't encourage Irish to come back or not leave in the first place.

    So you tell me how we are going to go from 35,000 a year to 60,000 a year?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    I said are you suggesting !! My post you failed to answer . Instead you pick on my comment .I am sure you care . I think you don't care about the poor people but used it to bolster your reply .Some of my posts you don't understand get a lot of likes , go figure .

    Post edited by rgossip30 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Less people years ago, more people and workers now. People go where there is work, Irish will return if the government start large scale housing projects. Workers already come here from many other countries.

    Don't know why you want to put obstacles in the way, it's not difficult stuff.

    According to the cso, approx 47,000 people were employed in construction in 2000.

    In 2005, there were 242,000 employed in construction.

    Today there are approx 198,000.

    https://m.independent.ie/business/irish/numbers-working-in-construction-nears-peak-seen-two-decades-ago/a424203401.html

    Of course mass scale building can be done. It was done when the population was half the size it is now and the country didn't have a penny to rub together.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭TokTik




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    A recession could be around the corner so mass scale building may not be required.

    . The government really should have majorly reduced this debt with all the extra "windfall corp receipts" and the apple 14 billion - instead they expanded the annual budget from €68 billion a year 2017 to the current estimate €120 billion a year (an increase in government spending of some 75% in 8 years).

    2017 Total Expenditure:€68.9 billion

    2025 Total Expenditure:€120.0 billion

    https://whereyourmoneygoes.gov.ie/en/2025/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Phat Cat


    What happened to the perpetrators behind these reported incidents? Were they deported? 55 critical incidents, which resulted in 7 deaths is very concerning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Exactly! As a father I want this country to be safer for my kids.

    I want our corrupt government to build a new prison so they can actually jail our offenders but this is the immigration thread so I didn't mention that.

    It's hilarious how we're just blaming immigration when this is the immigration thread so only aspects relative to immigration should go here.

    And as the stats show our immigration policy is making this country more dangerous for women. If women support this system it's like turkeys voting for Christmas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Very true. People will have more to worry about in that case.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    She will create division in this country. Dangerous ideologies she promotes. This bollox has no place on this island our ancestors fought so hard to unite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Reads like their dead. No need to deport the unfortunate people that committed suicide



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Germany will halt all refugee admission programs and won't create new ones, as part of the new coalition's plans, — Reuters

    Deportations to Syria will begin, starting with criminals and potentially dangerous individuals
    It will also now take minimum five years to gain citizenship, instead of three.

    The sea of change continues to sweep through Germany. Why was it any other way through? Think of all those people who were hurt or killed by their previous policies.

    In relation to Ireland do we now need to prepare for an even bigger influx? It should be an EU wide policy. No more refugees accepted. We've taken way more then enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    And as the stats show our immigration policy is making this country more dangerous for women

    Can you back this up in any actual real way?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    STOP we cant really continue until you explain this

    our corrupt government

    How is the democratically elected government corrupt?

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Germany ordered a temporary halt to a UN refugee resettlement program

    UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) spokesman for Germany, Chris Melzer, has said that the program was stopped "during the coalition negotiations" that are ongoing between the conservative Christian Democrat (CDU) bloc and the center-left Social Democrats (SPD).

    "We assume that it will continue," as soon as there is a new interior minister, he said.

    https://www.dw.com/en/germany-orders-halt-on-un-refugee-resettlement-program/a-72171825

    Posting Deliberate lies or just uninformed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    More misinformation

    as part of the new coalition's

    There isn't a new government in Germany yet.

    The fulltext of the article you are using for misinformation also points out the information is sourced "according to a document seen by Reuters".

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Marcos


    You mean the lady who asked for a glass of Ribena in a hotel in Galway and then promptly posted online that this was an act of racism because she asked for a glass of red wine instead of talking to the manager like a normal person and getting a glass of red wine. When this was pointed out to her she deleted the tweet. That Ebun Joseph? Surely not.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Marcos


    In uncomfortable reading for some on here, it turns out that 54% of unemployed in Germany have a migration background. Amateurs, don't they know you're supposed to enrol them in some makey uppey training schemes to take them off the books and not register them as unemployed but in education and training?

    So that when people point out that they are not contributing but getting all the benefits some immigration defenders can point out and say well ackshually that's untrue. Maybe the German equivalent of the journal.ie can do a fact check?

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    The fact that blatant untrue posts received thanks, while posts pointing out the untruths are ignored. Which just proves that posters have no interest in the truth, they are just against foreigners and anything that they can use to back up that idea, will suit them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    About 881,000 people in the country are considered to be long-term unemployed after not having a job for two or more years and 52 per cent of them are immigrants or the children of immigrants.

    So, 48% are German? Nearly 50/50. Nothing shocking there. Basically the same rate of unemployment in the German and non German population.

    The study also shows that 82 per cent of unemployed foreigners in Germany have no completed vocational training.

    Perhaps those makey uppy training schemes might actually be a good idea, to you know, help people to get jobs?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭engineerws


    Irish is not the same as ethnic Irish. Would you object to a scheme that excluded all Irish that were part of ethnic minorities such as Chinese etc.?

    Edited to correct grammar.

    Post edited by engineerws on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    I am at a loss here do you blame the poster for blatant lies or Reuters or have you a blind spot . ??

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-temporarily-halts-resettlement-un-refugees-dpa-reports-2025-04-08/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭RandRuns


    So, 48% are German? Nearly 50/50. Nothing shocking there. Basically the same rate of unemployment in the German and non German population.

    Eh, no.

    18% of the German population are immigrants, so on a 50/50 split of unemployment, immigrants are 4.5 times more likely to be unemployed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Ah yeah, of course , I didn't think of that. Too sunny today😁 my maths is clearly sh1t. Thanks for that.

    All the more reason to get them into education!

    Post edited by suvigirl on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭engineerws


    That's a completely different scheme from the one posted previously for which only a screenshot seems to exist.

    Post edited by engineerws on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Seeing as there's an absolute meltdown going on here I'll just post the source where I found that information. A very pro western, Pro Ukraine telegram page who are using Reuters' as their source.

    Screenshot_20250409-162155.png

    This shocking statistic aligns with recent studies which suggest immigration especially from poorer countries is proving to be a massive burden socially. It's because of this the likes of Sweden and Denmark completely re-evaluated their "everybody's welcome" approach. We have this waiting for us down the line IMO.

    A zero refugee policy Europe wide is needed. I'd make exceptions for refugees fleeing a war in Europe but I don't agree with the system that entails. Ukrainians for example got far too much, military aged men shouldn't be allowed in when Ukraine wants them and it should only ever be seen as temporary not a permanent migration from the country that needs it's people to return when the war is over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Maybe you should start to actually check these facts that you repeat. Much of the problem these days is people repeating out and out lies and untrue 'facts' that they are learning from social media and the likes of telegram pages, of all things.

    It's very clear from the actual links to real media linked, that Germany are NOT stopping their refugee programs and it is temporarily suspended while a new government is being formed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



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