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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I got it to work on a 2nd tv.

    Decent performance and a nice spread of scores. Division 3 opposition though and it will be the connaught final before we know where we are really at. Should walk through Leitrim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,786 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    We’re never going to lose thst in a million years but still not great that we can only beat Sligo by 3…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,150 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    That last 2 pointer from Sligo looked way inside the arc to me.

    Either that or I'm going senile.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭crusd


    Hame more or less. Slow it down and let them back in then stretch it out again before slowing down once more instead of going for the jugular. A shambles would be too generous. If we are conceding 2-17 to Sligo, better teams will pick us off easily



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Wouldn't get too worked up about Sligo coming back at us. There was a lot of inexperienced players on the field near the end. All in all a good days work getting so many players on the field and winning fairly comfortably. Plenty to work on but they will improve further.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭Barlett


    We’re never as good as we think we are & we’re never as bad as we think we are, they have been on the road a few weeks now…still giving debuts to players who didn’t play at all in the league is very strange



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭naughto


    Division 1 teams a lot harder to play against better to give players a run against sligo/letrim



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭Barlett


    So the plan is that after two games , he’ll be ready for the step up against AI contenders Galway? Rather than seeing what he’s like over 4-5 games in the league …doesn’t make any sense to be honest .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭naughto


    The new lads will not be used against Galway unless as subs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭Barlett


    Well if that’s the plan, we are in dire straits. No other team in division one played as fewer players as Mayo in the league . The reality is they got cleaned out against Kerry in midfield after playing seven midfielders , panic has set in & this we end up starting a player who hasn’t played all year. The run outs at the end is just so they can’t be criticised for not trying out new players.

    Management did a good job keeping us in division one but at the end of the day stuff like this smacks of desperation. Like what other team in division one is holding back players because they’re afraid they won’t cut it in the league?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 961 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    Sligo are a decent outfit and will do well in tailteann cup.
    today we should have been stress testing ourselves by Resting Aiden or/ and Ryan.
    In reality we don’t have the reserves or player calibre to do such a thing .
    Can’t see us being a contender for Connaught title this year either . Sorry for the gloom outlook.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Just watching highlights of Cork Tipp league final. Capacity crowd in P. Ui Chaoimh and wonderful atmosphere. What the hell are the GAA at dragging Kerry and Mayo to Croke Park resulting in a quarter full ground.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,657 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    so a number of things to be positive about but as always some will only focus on the negatives.
    Would have preferred if our victory was more comprehensive than that but let’s bear in mind that last years all Ireland finalists needed a late goal to win their fixture against the same opposition last year, having not played the weekend before if I recall correctly.
    Those who like to regurgitate the ramblings of particular podcasters would do well to remember a number of players got their championship debuts yesterday. Trying the same in the league would likely have cost us division 1 status which is still important in the context of whether it places you in the championship or not.
    Jordan gets a well needed rest and hopefully the others who have been on the go for 7 of the last 8 weekends can recharge before the Leitrim game.
    Lots of goal chances created, only 2 converted. Something to work on.
    Kickouts need work. Not sure that trying a different keeper would be the answer to that despite our obsession with trying another keeper. Defensively we looked a bit disjointed and Sligos second goal really exposed that. More work to do.

    Probably better for us to come away from that game somewhat chastened with flaws exposed rather than having trounced the opposition and nothing to work on.

    That said - when we hark back to the teams of 2016 and 2017 we had far better quality in our starting 15 than we do now so any ambitions beyond a Connacht title are perhaps aspirational at best. As always we should give it a good rattle but realism is needed.
    Hopefully people will at least be prepared to get behind the team and shout when needed, without feeling worried they might get taken to task for doing so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭GBXI


    I do agree that this team is lacking in quality. It's just they put in some big performances like Kerry in Killarney, Galway in Salthill, and Dublin in the Hyde that made us think they have this high bar. Realistically, while they can beat any team on their day, it's really hard to see them do it more than once this year.

    In midfield we are so weak. Carney so rarely influences a game and is very one paced, I'm convinced he is a squad player. At least Ruane can come up with 2+ points from play p/game while doing all the work that Carney does. Our keeper is much worse at kickouts than Hennelly was and has less options out the field than both Clarke or Hennelly had over the years. We have 6 decent backs to choose from but the balance hasn't been found and they desperately miss Paddy Durcan. It seems an unpopular opinion but they will win nothing without Eoghan McLaughlin starting. He's the best tackler on the team after O'Shea, one of the few physically dominant players on the team, and he's a huge asset going forward because of his pace. I reckon he has scored 4-16 in league and championship since his debut against Kerry at the start of Covid compared to for example, Enda Hession who scored his first ever championship score yesterday! On the topic of backs, how bad has McBrien been? Everyone just wanted to him to have a run of fitness and now that he has he has had zero influence on games.

    McHale seems to have had a strong performance yesterday and has nailed his spot down for the game v Leitrim which means he will likely start centre forward v Galway/Ross in the Connacht final. Again though, like Carney, he is a squad player if we were to have any All Ireland ambitions. I hope they persist with Neary and Flynn in the wing forward positions because Nearly brings much needed pace to that line compared to last year.

    In the full forward line, O'Shea is a must start because of his physicality and ball winning ability. Ryan is our best forward obviously but he is very up and down. Yesterday for example, he lost the ball in contact a number of times and his free taking from outside 40m is poor. I think we really should be looking at another inside forward against Leitrim and can't believe we didn't do it yesterday when we had the chance - they obviously don't fancy Towey - but they will regret it if O'Shea or Ryan are out for a game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    Good post Blackjack. I've been optimistic over the past few weeks (not over optimistic though). But I think things have worked out well for Mayo in recent weeks. Good run in the latter part of the league. Getting to give game experience to the less experienced guys. Got good game experience against Kerry in Croke Park. And now have the Sligo game out of the way. A two week break now to lead into the Leitrim match who are in a shambles, so should really be a useful challenge game for Mayo. And then another 2 week break to the Connacht final against Galway or Roscommon.

    In reality I don't expect Mayo to beat Galway in a Connacht final (other than getting Paddy and Tommy back playing). But we cannot ask for a better lead up to the final in terms of preparation.

    BTW - if it turns out to be a Mayo Galway final, is it known yet where it would be on? Last year was in Salthill. Castlebar this year ?? I just watched the last 10 mins of last years Connacht final against Galway, where Galway snuck it at the end. We really owe them one this year. P. Joyce jumping around at the end. A sickening watch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I think a connacht final with Galway in Castlebar could be a cracker and one of the largest attendances in a number of years. The heavy league defeat should give Mayo plenty of motivation. But it will take a huge performance to beat them.

    Those saying "we can beat anyone on our day" isnt a great boast and is really an admission that we aren't a top team. Supporters of teams in the top 4 arent saying that.

    Beating anyone on their day is what we did against Tyrone in 04, Dublin in 06, Cork in 11, Dublin in 21 and Kerry in killarney a few years back. i.e. we found one peak performance to take down a big hitter but what followed was an anticlimax. This may be what happens this year against Galway but hopefully we can maintain levels after that.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,040 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Always a fan of your posts in general but I think the negativity towards to those particular podcasters, or people who may share similar views, is OTT.

    I wouldn't agree with them all the time but I like to get different angles from different people.

    The way you've phrased above is that if anyone has a similar view to them, it's that those people are just regurgitating the discussions on that podcast. Plenty of people share similar views to them and aren't just repeating what they hear on a podcast… I think people deserve a bit more credit than that.

    It's ironic that you're hoping that people won't be worried about getting behind the team without being taken to task.…yet being really dismissive of any questioning of decisions.

    If people want to be negative about the team then let them off. I'm in a more negative frame of mind about us than I would want to be. M



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭Barlett


    Indeed it appears to be my post that is in the firing line here…the league is generally accepted as the place for trying out new players and new tactics since basically its inception …it's not that 'out there' to question a reluctance to do that. Putting a positive spin on everything is just as toxic as being negative about everything at the end of the day.

    I would also say…the attitude of 'we don't have the players' is a slippery slope to Division 3 football. Did we have the players in January 1996 after being dumped out of Connaught in 1995? Did Donegal have the players when they finished bottom of D1 in 2023? I understand that we don't want to be totally negative, afterall management did well to keep the team in Division 1…but whatever players you have…you are looking for signs of improvement and if I was to look at the team now and the team last year…I don't see much sign of that. But i hope I am proven wrong and they win Connaught this year because at the end of the day…when we were riding in the last decade…Galway still managed to beat us in 16 and 17.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭Barlett


    Anyway I'm absolutely banging on here…we all want the same thing at the end of the day and tbh the middling performances would be much easier to take if we could move a bit faster up the pitch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭TsuDhoNimh


    Yeah. We're due a home final against either Roscommon or Galway, so it'll be a MacHale Park final as long as we're part of it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Be-Jaysus


    Not sure about that,

    Crowds and interest in the McStay project has deteriorated ,the brand of football isn't enticing, while immigration has reached similar numbers to financial crash 15 years ago.

    Will be lucky to get 15k on a good day, but more likely 1O/12k max imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    10-12k for a Mayo Galway connaught final in Castlebar? Your contempt for McStay has really gone off the rails. It's getting tiresome tbh. Perhaps you'll apply for the position when he finishes up? You seem to have all the answers.

    2-20 racked up yesterday, a good spread of scorers, plenty of direct play particularly with the wind, 6 championship debutants got game time. Some people can only see a glass half full no matter what.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,040 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Galway and Sligo brought 12k to McHale Park a couple of years ago... Not a chance it'll be at that level if it's a Mayo Galway final this year.

    I would expect a huge interest in that potential final, in or around 20k... But a big part of that interest mightn't be from the most positive of places. I think plenty are seeing a Connacht title as being the best we can hope for from the year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭gigantic09


    Sligo game had a poor attendance because it was way overpriced and the result was never in doubt.

    League attendances for the home games were fairly good with the exception of the Tyrone one. when we started to become watchable again the crowds returned.

    Should be a decent attendance (over 18k)for Connaught final whether it's Galway or Rossies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭spakman


    if its mayo v Galway I'd expect close to a sellout of 27k. should be about 23 or 24k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    It's hard to know. There is a lot of negativity around Mayo football. I've heard a fair few people trot out the auld reliable - "wouldn't cross the road to see them". Of course, the same prlcks will out looking for All-Ireland tickets if in the unlikely event Mayo got there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭BandMember


    And are the sort of people who will get a ticket no bother too, while others who actually go to the games are scrambling around like mad looking for one!! Perfect example, a mate of mine has been to 6 Mayo games in his life. Doesn't even bother watching on TV half the time, never kicked or a ball or went to a club game in his whole life. Those 6 games he's been at? All AI Finals. Not a bother getting tickets! I know a few more like him, sadly….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,150 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    I just now got around to seeing the highlights of the Sligo game.

    How was the last Sligo score a two pointer ?

    He was at least a yard inside the arc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,786 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    That 30 quid was a total mindfcuk for me. If I had thought about it for a minute I likely would've given the game a miss and stayed home for the Manchester derby. On second thoughts I may have made the right call…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I was right in line with it,couldn't believe that was given.

    It wasn't even close,he was 6 feet inside the arc.



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