Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

VinLieger · 08-04-2025 07:12PM

If Trump played this correctly he could make a truly decent attempt to isolate China but hes now demanding the EU buy 350B dollars worth of energy from the US to get a tariff reprieve…. hes decided to go with extortion.

kneemos · 08-04-2025 07:19PM

China won't always be a low wage manufacturer. It's becoming wealthier and they're producing high end merchandise.

Maybe we should all hitch our wagons.

aloyisious · 08-04-2025 07:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123336600#Comment_123336600

No docking, no unloading, no point in entering US waters [incl self-proclaimed waters like gulf of America] in case Trump's admin claim entering US territorial waters is entering its taxation zone. The weirdness of Trump's claims to date means it's not wise to exclude anything from his playbook. His AG is totally on his side, likewise Congress, if laws need alteration.

trashcan · 08-04-2025 07:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123338633#Comment_123338633

Was just watching a video on this Navarro guy last night. Apparently he was discovered for Trump by Jared Kushner prior to the 2016 election. Kushner picked h8m out by looking at books online ( just the covers, mind😃) and a book by Navarro about Ch8na caught his eye. In case people didn’t get your Ron Vara reference, seemingly Navarro quotes him as an “expert”. Only problem is he doesn’t exist, and Ron Vara is an anagram of Navarro. Hilarious stuff 😂

VinLieger · 08-04-2025 07:42PM

The surviving Koch brother is taking a court case against Trump saying imposing the tariffs is unconstitutional, if this follows through we might see who really owns the Supreme Court....

looksee · 08-04-2025 08:01PM

A military parade was being tentatively planned for the 250th anniversary of the US army, founded on June 14th 1775. Guess what also happens on 14th June…Trump's birthday. So it looks as though, as a result of this very fortuitous coincidence he will get his birthday parade, he suggested it in his first term but they put him off.

Looks like this one is going to happen though, and the Trump admin is apparently 'in the early stages of planning it'.

It might not even be noticeable that there is a 250th anniversary on the day. He will have a lovely time.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/07/politics/trump-plans-military-parade-washington/index.html

LambshankRedemption · 08-04-2025 08:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123339096#Comment_123339096

June is some ways off. If things continue as they are, the Army won't be able to afford fuel for the Bradley Fighting Vehicles.

aloyisious · 08-04-2025 08:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123338724#Comment_123338724

I was thinking along the lines of the EU commission, with the agreement of the the 27 member Govts, telling the Pharma Corporations with US connections that due to the disruption caused to normal trade by Trump's tariffs increases on the EU and to ensure that trading returns to a safe level, all trading on Pharma Co's EU shares [incl IP], all movement of Pharma Co's EU pharma stock or production equipment will be stopped from midnight on whatever date AND no closure or interference with of EU Pharma production by any US authority or management will be permitted until usual sensible trading TOC's return. The EU commission should take over the production facilities of the Co's to ensure pharma needs to medics etc keeps going.

Make it clear to those who can make Trump do a u-turn on his tariffs scheming that he must be reined in from his financial wargaming for business to return to normal.

LambshankRedemption · 08-04-2025 08:21PM

Make it clear to those who can make Trump do a u-turn on his tariffs scheming that he must be reined in from his financial wargaming for business to return to normal.

Except it's not been shown that anyone can make DJT do a u-turn.

pjohnson · 08-04-2025 08:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123339173#Comment_123339173

Maybe Ivanka could if she was in a saucy little number. We know he likes her at least.

trashcan · 08-04-2025 08:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123339122#Comment_123339122

Gives them plenty of time to perfect the aul goose stepping though !

Kermit.de.frog · 08-04-2025 08:35PM

Presumably the EU is near the back of the queue here.

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1909703725184434484

aloyisious · 08-04-2025 08:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123339173#Comment_123339173

It's not as if anyone in authority in the US has even called him in for a formal or informal chat; "Don, about these things you've been doing, we think you've got it wrong and must stop". A little bit of encouragement "because if you don't we will remove you from office for the good of the country" from the right quarter could be all the medicine he needs. And I don't mean Vlad.

Tell me how · 08-04-2025 08:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123339253#Comment_123339253

South Korea, Japan and China announced closer economic ties to each other last week.

I'd be surprised if Japan/South Korea are reneging on that understanding so quickly.

Tell me how · 08-04-2025 08:54PM

Apparently Trumps admin is considering drone attacks on Mexican Drug cartels.

Or another way to put it, invading yet another country.

Does this support or undermine his campaign promises to be a peaceful President and to negotiate his way to deals?

Tell me how · 08-04-2025 08:56PM

Oh, and apparently the Dept of Defence has been green lighted to request a 1T$ budget. The first ever.

Shame really, after all the money DOGE was saving the tax payer, to just p*ss it out the window again to the military, but I'm sure that that is what the people voted for. More people out of work, and the organisation which hasn't passed an audit in how long getting several hundred Billion more this year than last.

Kermit.de.frog · 08-04-2025 08:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123339351#Comment_123339351

South Korea announced earlier they are not standing by China and Japan facing US tariffs.

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1909598900052173283

On a separate note AI's getting creepy 🤣

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9Kw_jMTttk

LambshankRedemption · 08-04-2025 08:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123339312#Comment_123339312

Are you being serious? Or is that a joke comment?

It's hard to know nowadays.

VinLieger · 08-04-2025 09:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123339253#Comment_123339253

Cannot believe anything they say until it actually happens.

10000maniacs · 08-04-2025 09:03PM

This is funny

Ben Lau (@axiang67) | TikTok

EltonJohn69 · 08-04-2025 09:04PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/BrFy0GB8nT

Hard to disagree. Trump’s mentality that in trade there has to be a winner and a loser is wrong.

LambshankRedemption · 08-04-2025 09:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123339406#Comment_123339406

The Tainaiste is on his way to talk to their Commerce Secretary as we speak.

As you say, you'd be as well off getting your news from Weekly World News as believing that X account.

VinLieger · 08-04-2025 09:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123339432#Comment_123339432

Im aware of that but the Tanaiste does not officially negotiate on behalf of the EU as far as i know? Also Ludnick is pretty staunchly anti Ireland therefore i dont think sending Harris will do any good either way so that means nothing in my opinion.

LambshankRedemption · 08-04-2025 09:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123339448#Comment_123339448

He was just quoted on the 10 O'clock show as saying, and i paraphrase "I have a team from the EU ready to go and talk to them".

It sounds to me like he is. He's just back from Luxembourg for a meeting on trade.

(yeah I know, the Journal)

https://www.thejournal.ie/eu-trade-meeting-tariffs-luxembourg-6670676-Apr2025/

All_in_Flynn · 08-04-2025 09:17PM

Has it actually been officially confirmed that they are implementing the extra tariffs on China apart from what that lunatic press sec said? I just wouldn't take her word at face value.

Like what is his actual goal here? Is he actually looking to devalue the dollar? That's the only thing I can think of. Make the dollar weak and go down the manufacturing route and make themselves attractive that way.

Bizarre but I can't think of anything else. He's not going to get golden deals from any major trading bloc. He'll get some of the smaller countries coming with hat in hand but it's a pittance in the grand scheme.

Sierra Oscar · 08-04-2025 09:18PM

US treasury yields are steadily increasing which is one to watch in the days ahead. Is Trump about to have his Liz Truss moment? They can only go so high before there is economic carnage in the US.

Trump officials were exclaiming that achieving a drop in yields was a core aim of their overall strategy yet the exact opposite is happening. Trump wants the Federal Reserve to cut interest rates but if treasuries keep going the way they are heading then they will have to increase rates. Terrible for Trump and terrible for the US economy!

US commentators seem a little shocked that yields are rising in the midst of the stock market turmoil as there is usually a flight to safety in US government bonds during economic turmoil. I don't think the penny has dropped with them yet, they can't understand why international investors are not interested in buying US debt and are instead actively offloading their holdings. Who in their right minds would buy US debt when they are actively imploding their economy?

Capt'n Midnight · 08-04-2025 09:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123336895#Comment_123336895

Moving some oil prices to Euro would be interesting as one of the reasons people need dollars is to buy oil.

Almost half of all physical dollars are held abroad. Something like a trillion dollars. Donald might make it harder to repatriate them, like print new notes and put a time limit on the old ones.

There's lots of ways you can tank the dollar. The UK tried quantitive easing. It made the pound less valuable but on the other hand exports didn't increase.

Tell me how · 08-04-2025 09:36PM

He's so bad at this.

Today, he's denigrating phone manufacturing jobs whike blowing smoke up the ass of coal miners, tomorrow, he'll be saying his tariffs are so successful Apple phones will now be made in the US and loads of jobs will be created in them doing so.

Kermit.de.frog · 08-04-2025 09:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123339467#Comment_123339467

China could be leaking US treasury bonds is the conspiracy theory.

Capt'n Midnight · 08-04-2025 09:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123339514#Comment_123339514

"The children yearn for the mines."

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/25/business/florida-child-labor-laws/index.html

The gross margin on an iPhone is about 60%. So even a 104% tariff on the 40% it costs to make it would only bring the cost to 81.6% of the current retail price. It's the other brands that will suffer more.

Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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