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  • 21-01-2025 09:51PM
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    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 714 CMod ✭✭✭✭


    Often the forum has the same similiar queries about thinking of taking up biking. Here is a good article from Motorcycle Action Group Ireland on starting. Obviously there will be the odd question on what type of bike they should start on etc, but most information regarding the law, license, basic training etc are in this -

    So you want to ride a motorcycle, and you are not sure where to start?
    The basic steps are

    1) Do the driver theory test

    2) Get your Learner Permit

    3) Do your Initial Basic Training with an approved instructor

    4) Sit the practical test


    Minimum Age:
    There are legal restrictions on what types of vehicle you can drive at what age.
    • 16 to ride a moped – Category M license.
    • 16 to ride a motorcycle with an engine capacity not exceeding 125 c.c’s and with a power rating not exceeding 11 kilowatts.
    • 18 or over to ride a motorcycle over 125c.c. but with a max power output of 25kw / 33b.h.p. or a power to weight ratio of 0.16kw/kg.

    Step 1: The Driver Theory Test
    Before applying for a learner permit, you must pass a test of general road safety knowledge and motoring legislation – the driver theory test. It applies to anyone applying for a first learner permit in any vehicle category. To quote the RSA;

    The test is designed to check knowledge of topics such as:
    • Rules of the Road
    • Risk perception
    • Eco-driving
    • Hazard awareness
    • Good driving behaviour

    Computer-based and easy to use, the theory test is designed for those who have little or no experience of using computers as well as those who do. You can do a practice session on the day before starting on the actual test.
    Apply by Phone;
    Driver Theory Service:
    1890 606 106 (English language)
    1890 606 806 (Irish language)
    1890 616 216 (text phone – for the hearing-impaired)
    Or by post;
    PO Box 788
    Togher
    Cork
    Cost is: €35.60.

    Step 2: Getting your Learner Permit.
    If you are applying for your first learner permit you must include a theory test certificate along with your learner-permit application.
    Note that these certs have a ‘lifespan’ of two years from date of issue, so you must apply for the Learner Permit within two years of date of issue of the theory test certificate.

    What is a “Learner Permit”?
    A learner permit is a licence issued to learner drivers. It enables them to learn to drive and to apply for a driving test at the same time.
    The learner permit replaces the old provisional licence, which is no longer issued.
    N.B: a Learner Permit is issued for each class of licence – so you need a Class ‘A’ permit for a Class ‘A vehicle. Class ‘A1’ permit for a Class ‘A1’ vehicle etc.

    Don’t forget The “L” Plate. To quote the RSA:

    Drivers of vehicles in categories A(Motorcyle,no greater than 125cc), A1(Motorcyles) and M(Mopeds) must also display L plates at all times. The plates must be displayed on a yellow fluorescent tabard worn over the person’s outside clothing. The letter L should be at least 15cm high and appear as red on a white background and in clearly visible vertical positions to the front and rear of the person’s body.

    Step 3: Initial Basic Training (I.B.T.)
    From Dec. 6th 2010:
    All new first time learner permit holders for motorcycles are required to undertake Initial Basic Training (IBT) with an Approved Driving Instructor (ADI).
    The course is 16 hours spread over 4 modules. Once this course of lessons is complete the learner permit holder will be issued with a certificate which must be kept with their learner permit.

    • Motorcycle riders must complete the programme before driving unsupervised on the road while a learner.
    • Evidence of completing the lessons will be signed off in a learner’s logbook by the Approved Driving Instructor.
    • Evidence of having taken the lessons will have to be presented before taking a driving test.

    I.B.T. is done in four modules. The specific detail of these modules is as set out below. (Taken from the RSA information booklet)

    The IBT motorcycle training modules
    Module 1 has six objectives. You will need at least three hours to achieve them. They cover:
    1. Personal protective equipment (PPE)
    2. Introduction to motorcycle controls
    3. Technical checks
    4. Placing motorcycle on and off the stand
    5. Walking alongside the motorcycle
    6. How to start and stop the engine
    Module 2 has 10 objectives. You will need at least five hours to achieve them. They cover:
    1. Moving off and stopping
    2. Use of brakes
    3. Use of gears
    4. Slow riding
    5. Figure of eight
    6. U-turn
    7. Slalom
    8. Rear observation and mirrors
    9. Turning left and right
    10. Emergency adjustment of speed
    Module 3 has nine objectives. You will need at least two hours to achieve them. They cover:
    1. Legal requirements
    2. Rules of the road
    3. Being seen
    4. Road surfaces
    5. Road and lane position
    6. Rear observations and mirrors
    7. Speed
    8. Anticipation and reaction
    9. Weather conditions
    Module 4 has eight objectives. You will need at least six hours to achieve them. They cover:
    1. Gradients
    2. Junctions
    3. Traffic lights
    4. Roundabouts
    5. Safe distance
    6. Anticipation and reaction
    7. Pedestrian crossings
    8. Bends
    During this module your trainer will be in radio link with you from his/her own motorcycle on a public road. They will supply the radios. Please note: You may have to supply your own PPE for any or all of the training – please check with your trainer.”

    Restrictions:
    “A motorcyclist applying for a first-time learner permit is restricted to riding motorcycles with an engine power output not more than 25kW or with a power/weight ratio not more than 0.16 kW/kg. Such restriction applies for the duration of all learner permits and for the first two years after taking out a full driving licence in category A.”
    (For a full explanation of the 25Kw restriction, see the MAG Ireland Information Sheet 25Kw License Facts)


    A person who holds a learner permit in:

    • Vehicle categories A1/A and M (motorcycles/mopeds) is not permitted to carry a passenger.
    • Any vehicle category is not allowed to carry any passenger for reward. (So, you cannot work as a courier or pizza delivery for example.)

    Vehicles in categories A, A1 and M (motorcyles and mopeds) must also display L plates at all times. The plates must be displayed on a yellow fluorescent tabard worn over the person’s outside clothing. The letter L should be at least 15cm high and appear as red on a white background and in clearly visible vertical positions to the front and rear of the person’s body.

    Note:
    A number of penal offenses have been introduced for learner drivers. These include not displaying ‘L’ plates when driving, and the carrying of a passenger by a learner motorcyclist. These offenses are punishable by a minimum €1,000 fine for a first offense.

    The 6 month wait for a test:
    if you are granted a learner permit for vehicles in category A, A1, or M, and have not held a learner permit in the five-year period prior to the granting of a permit in any of these categories you cannot sit a driving test within six months of your permit coming into force, although you may apply for a test within this period. The code 991 will be printed on your license opposite the vehicle category in the column headed ‘restrictions/information.’

    The Practical Test
    The RSA has a written a very good article on their own website about the test – it’s here;

    The test fee is now €75!!!
    So it only makes sense that if at all possible – you only have to do this once!

    Insurance

    In Ireland, there are 4 motorbike insurers (as of 2025)

    AXA
    Carole Nash
    Principle
    redclick

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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,729 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    Hey, I'm sorry because I'm sure this gets asked a lot (I know, I know!) but I did search RSA, DTT and the two stickies before coming here.

    I'm assuming I do need to repeat the theory test for an A LP even though I have a full B licence? Before I book, I said I'd see what the story is.

    EDIT: The answer is YES!

    It is classed as a separate test, and you will need to take it again, despite your full B (car) licence.

    Post edited by CianRyan on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    Depends on when you did the theory test. I was exempt from it but only found out after I did the feckin thing. If you did your theory test before *I think 2008 or so you will be exempt. It will tell you in your myrsa account.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭muddle84


    I did my theory test before 2008 and I wasn't excempt from the motorbike theory test. I was exempt from the trailer theory test, but not the motorbike!

    Log onto myrsa and it will show if you need it or not, or you can email RSA and ask them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    I did mine in 2003 so I'm not sure when the exemption was for but I 100% didn't need it, it might have changed but apparently the first theory test covered all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    the theory test wasn’t a thing way back when I first started driving a car. When I went looking for a bike provisional I had to do a theory test.



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