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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,853 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Lol.

    Mc Donald's is the best, you know , best of American beef , soo strong , you know, so strong !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,853 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Salutary lesson to those in the Conservative Party ,one would now hope ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,016 ✭✭✭✭briany


    America doesn't have a two party system. It has a system that heavily favours two parties. Other parties exist, but Americans won't vote for them due the idea that voting for one amounts to a wasted vote and is only a net benefit to the 'other side'.

    This could be overcome. Yes, it would take a monumental grassroots effort to get it off the ground, but this isn't impossible. I mean, it's not like the Republican party wanted Trump when he first arrived on the scene, but he had enough appeal to the party base that he could essentially bypass the party apparatus.

    Never more than now does America need a real alternative in the face of the insanity of the Republicans and the fecklessness of the Democrats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk sparred on social media Tuesday with White House Senior Counselor Peter Navarro, after Navarro said in an interview Monday that Tesla was a car "assembler" rather than a manufacturer.

    "Tesla has the most American-made cars. Navarro is dumber than a sack of bricks," Musk said in an X post on Tuesday.

    "Navarro is truly a moron," Musk said in a separate post. "What he says here is demonstrably false."

    Both Navarro and Musk are two of Trump’s closest advisors, and Navarro previously served in Trump's first administration as the director of the White House National Trade Council and the director of the Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    FPTP quickly facilitates minority rule if a third party comes into play. You could have a situation like this:

    Party A: 45%
    Party B: 40%
    Party C: 15%

    In this case, A is elected, despite the fact that the majority of the electorate did not vote for them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    The corruption just keeps getting more blatant. After launching his own cryptocurrency 3 days before inauguration, the Trump admin is now disbanding a unit dedicated to crypto-related investigations. NCET, or the National Cryptocurrency Enforcement Unit, was disbanded “effective immediately” last night as part of the agency’s efforts to comply with Trump’s January executive order on digital assets, which aimed to “establish regulatory clarity” for the industry.

    https://fortune.com/crypto/2025/04/08/doj-ncet-disbands-memo-todd-blanche-trump/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    So.....like the UK and many other countries have had forever?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,945 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Yes its massively undemocratic, the UK have only had 1 government in the last 100 years elected by a majority of voters thanks to FPtP.

    In 2024 Labour won 63% of seats with only 33% of the votes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just interested.

    Wouldn't you say the lack of opportunity afforded to The Libertarian Party in the US.....the apparent joint effort to stop them gaining any traction in US politics is just as undemocratic?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,016 ✭✭✭✭briany


    The UK has FPTP and several parties which can gain seats in its parliament and usually solves this potential issue via coalitions. I realise that the American political system at its top level is really geared toward oppositionality rather than broad, calm consensus, so the whole idea is quite alien to them, but they have had political coalitions in the distant past, of a sort, in 1854, 1858, 1860 and 1862. The timing of these coalitions does speak to the idea that America's really in trouble if anything disrupts their usual system because it speaks to intense political pressure, but I think America's getting to that point again.

    At the moment, you have the MAGA caucus utterly dominating the Republican party. Moderates don't get much of a say on the party's direction. On the other side, with the Democrats, the corporate centre is quelling any new thinking from the left wing of the party. It used to be that both parties functioned as de-facto coalitions in their own right between several factions or 'caucuses' but this is getting less and less true. MAGA are busy tearing down US democracy while the left of the Democrats are screaming at the party's power brokers to do something, but they just carry on like it's business as usual. Something has to give, here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,945 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Yes because the reasons for it are again entirely down to FPtP where any significant split for either of the 2 main parties towards a 3rd party will hand any election to the party that doesn't split. For instance if the Libertarian party siphoned off just 10-15% of the republicans support across all states for the midterms they would lose nearly every seat to the Democrats thanks to FPtP.

    But also no because looking at it from the view that its the libertarian party being specifically targeted from gaining political traction is wrong, the 2 main parties cannot have any 3rd party gain traction whatsoever or they will lose everything.

    Some would argue this is why the Republican leadership decided to row so heavily in behind trump as they saw the writing on the wall that if he did trigger a split the Democrats would ultimately decimate them. Just look at the Tories and Reform in the UK 2024 election, Labour likely would have still won but Reform split the vote enough that the Tories were very close to being absolutely decimated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭doyle55




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,662 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I am wracking my brain thinking what would China want to buy from the US? Aside from the odd car, and bottles of wine, there's not a whole lot. Certainly nothing crucial. Meanwhile an analyst on CNN last night said that tarrifs could increase the price of the new iPhone to $3000 for Americans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    Media reporting that White House has raised tariffs on China again to 104% now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Honest question, what do you think the EU will end up having to concede to satisfy the orange buffoon?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,612 ✭✭✭nachouser


    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/exports/china

    Quite a few things, it seems. The same site says about 500bn went the other way in 2023.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,640 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Whoa. I find myself agreeing wholeheartedly with Elon. Navarro is a criminal (another convicted felon) and obviously a fraud. Shouldn't be on the street let alone in the WH. I didn't think Trump could do worse than Kudlow as an economic adviser, but Kudlow's just a fool, not a criminal, fool, naieve zealot like Navarro.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,662 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Trumpspeak has to be translated to reality speak.

    Trumpspeak "Things are going well" Reality - It is an Armageddon situation, a million people have died from Covid

    Trumpspeak "Things are going very well"

    Reality - Stock markets are crashing, unemployment rising rapidly, Gaza out of control

    Trumpspeak "We are doing exceptionally well, like no one would believe"

    Reality - Stock market falling but not too many planes falling out of the sky

    Trumpspeak "We are performing better than anyone in history, by a lot, it is not even close"

    Reality - Trump has been playing golf for the day, nothing much happened

    I have no idea for what Trumpspeak would be for a Reality of things going well. We will just have to wait and see if this ever happens



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    104% tariffs on China from midnight 😮

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,612 ✭✭✭nachouser


    "Pharmaceutical and medicine exports to China saw continued growth
    US exports of pharmaceuticals and medicines to China continued their growth streak, jumping $3 billion in
    2022, or 38 percent. Much of this growth was concentrated in North Carolina, which boosted its exports by
    $2.1 billion compared to the year prior. A handful of states also saw massive growth relative to 2021, with
    Rhode Island, Utah, Nevada, Arkansas, Michigan, Louisiana, and North Carolina all more than doubling their
    pharmaceutical exports to China. While this report does not include data for territories such as Puerto Rico or
    the US Virgin Islands, it is noteworthy that Puerto Rico exported $1.1 billion in pharmaceuticals to China in
    2022, behind only North Carolina and Indiana.
    Over the past few years, China has sped up regulatory processes for new drug approvals, which has allowed
    US companies to more rapidly bring new drugs to the country’s market. While some US companies are able to
    export a large amount of high-value, high-demand drugs that have no domestic equivalents in China, China’s
    national pharmaceutical procurement program may pose a long-term barrier to continued growth for US
    companies in this sector."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    It is about the only thing correct or honest that Musk has said in ages.

    Peter Navarro is indeed an idiot.

    Now on the other hand that that chap that Navarro quotes, Ron Varo is truly a genius. 😁

    Fook me pink if one wants to see how bad the education system is in the US, ask how can Peter Navarro could be an economics professor at highly ranked publicly funded university never mind how Harvard produced such a dullard.

    Trump, his cabinet and inner circle cheerleaders are either a bunch of halfwits or some of the most malevolent voices to be let near the reigns of power ever. The likes of Thiel, Sacks fit into the latter whereas Vance, Kennedy, Hegseth are definitely in the former category.

    Musk for all his wealth and "achievements" is really a psycho of some sort and unlike the real genius whose name is on his car company, Musk is way over the line between genius and insanity.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭poop emoji


    If we weren’t in EU (your dream) Ireland would have gotten 69% tarrifs due to us being such a large exporter (thanks to EU) to US



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    At last, an administration that's not handing the future over to China.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Technology would be one area - although over time the technology that China has been importing has decreased because they have been knocking out their own, firstly as copies of Western technology and then as better versions.

    They still have to import massive amounts of semi conductors from other Asian countries for all the kit they produce.

    One of China's biggest imports is food, they have massive amount of people and even though big country huge chunks are not suitable for massive agriculture due to desserts, mountains, etc.

    The Chinese haven't been investing in Africa or Siberia for no reason.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,035 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    *Unless that collapsible chair is made in China

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    wow…104% more on china…has he upped the tariffs on the penguins yet…?


    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…

    yo! donnie vonshitzinpants..you sir are the skidmark on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    The penguins have decided to p-p-pick up the tab.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,035 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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