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Sales people calling to your door

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    Id never buy anything from a door to door sales person and I'm amazed anyone does why would you, id say majority of their sales are vulnerable individuals or the sale person is hope it's a elderly person who doesn't use a computer few and far between in today's society.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 blanchwill


    Ring doorbell is great for this, I just send an automated response to them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    Why, would you invite strangers in to your house and then check bonkers.ie or any switching site?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭Mr321


    At least when those door sellers with products call and I say not interested they go. Had a few very pushy and persistent people on a few occasions from a certain religious group who did not back off on the 'not interested'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,967 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    The problem with not answering the door is if the "salesmen" are from a certain ethnic minority, they'll think that you aren't in. They won't necessarily rob the place there and then but may have a snoop around while also taking notes that you weren't there for future reference

    Also, I know of one case where travelling tradesmen started doing work at a property (elderly person living alone) without the door being answered or any authorisation. Then called back later, pointed out the work and demanded payment, claiming that there was an ongoing arrangement because they had done the job the previous year.

    Never underestimate how thick and pushy people are. Had one teenage bollox recently hit a sliotar into my back garden from a public road. Did he knock on the front door before retrieving in, no straight around the back. Also last Christmas had a Roma come to the house back door with her children, sang a little song and then demanded money. the cheek of some people.



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    Because he was selling something we wanted.

    He told us the offer at the door, it sounded good so we invited him in and sat him down to go through the details and at the same time we checked bonkers to see if there were better offers out there or whether what he said about his pricing being a good offer was indeed true.

    He was a very pleasant, professional individual and was open to us cross checking and verifying what he was telling us.

    He was not pushy or aggressive.

    That's why we invited him in.

    What I've noticed about boards.ie over recent years is that there seems to be a perception that everyone else in the world is a prick.

    This thread alone had a poster suggesting that door to door sales people be assaulted (post since removed), another suggesting having a bottle of piss handy when they call, other suggesting you tell them to f88k off.

    It's the same on other threads, the other driver is a c**t, the customer service person on the end of the phone is a c**t, the cafe owner is a price gouging c**t, so is the trades person.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,451 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I used to be plagued by callers from Eircon - I posted this on boards a year ago…

    About ten years ago I was being hounded by them both with phone calls and front-door calls (usually when having dinner) and it got to the point that there was something every few days.

    As I wasn't a customer of theirs, I wanted my details removed from their marketing lists and every time they called, i made this demand to no avail. (I hadn't been a customer of theirs since I got it in writing about twenty years ago that one of their "Winback" agents lied to me).

    Anyhow, I decided to make a formal request to their Data Protection Officer but at the time there seemed no way digitally to contact them. So I printed off a letter and dropped it into HSQ. This letter made the point that I had asked countless times to be removed. It also mentioned that as I would never, ever, ever become a customer of theirs, I did not want to be pestered with their marketing so as of receipt of my letter (which was hand delivered!), any call made (either by phone or to the door) would incur a non-negotiable charge of €10,000. Any continuation of the unwelcome calls would signal acceptance of my terms.
    There has not been one more call since!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭kabakuyu




  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    problem is stories from the UK and abroad coming here and then every sales rep is tarred with the same brush.

    Apparently, if I read this thread, my job involves hassling pensions, taking advantage of those who are vulnerable and lying to everyone I speak with.

    of course I’ll deal with older people and younger people but never vulnerable people. If I suspect or I am informed of a vulnerability I am out of there. In fact when I was training in on my first week the rep I was with and I called to a lady who informed us at some point that she has a cognitive impairment and immediately the conversation ended.

    The guy I was with told her look we will come another time when your daughter is around (she handles these things on her mams behalf) and that was the end of it. He told me you absolutely don’t deal with these folks because you cannot be seen to take advantage of people and it’s not what we’re here for.

    I’d rather end the day with no sales and get a bolloking than sign up someone who’s vulnerable. I couldn’t sleep at night knowing I scammed some old person or whatever. I really do feel it’s very disappointing to see so many people would consider someone like myself just trying to make a few pound and save you money in the process to be akin to one of those Nigerian scammers or similar.

    Has worked out well for me so far anyway. Often receiving calls from customers to see if I’m ok with my details being passed to a friend or co worker etc. are there bad guys out lying to people? I say there is, yeah. But the majority of us are just doing our job and doing it the right way.

    And another thing- sales reps aren’t out taking advantage of someone too old or “stupid” to save themselves a few quid switching their esb or broadband or whatever, we’re actually depending on blind luck that we meet someone who’s just come out of contract or is looking for a better deal but for whatever reason hasn’t gotten around to it themselves.

    Often I’ll meet people who wouldn’t be bothered for a moment to deal with me but if they give me 90 seconds I can often change their mind.

    And I’ll finish off by saying, I’ve never signed up a vulnerable person & any older person I’ve signed up has either been sharp as a tack or I’ve personally visited them again to set them up with the new equipment and help them port over phone numbers etc. not for anything from them just because it was the decent thing to do.

    But anyway, I may go, I’ve a few dementia patients to rob here. 😀🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭BraveDonut


    We have a "no canvassers" sign next to our "no junk mail" sign. It deters a surprising number of callers. If they go ahead and call anyway, I just say "No, thank you" and tell them to note the sign



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭TerrieBootson


    They're just doing a job. Mostly they are selling something I don't need, so politely I ask them to move on. I did, however, get bins with Panda for €10.00 per month, three bins, weekly lifts, from a rep who called to my door.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭muloc


    Why is it that they call to your door when you're already with them? Have they no access to a database of existing customers? GDPR maybe



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭TerrieBootson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,037 ✭✭✭daheff


    definitely electricity/gas providers have some kind of database where they can see if you are in contract. i've had a couple call to the door in the past saying they could see i was just out of contract.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭cml387


    They seem to be not so bad now.

    In the past, after being told I wasn't interested, they countered with "So you're not interested in saving money?" I replied with the clever and witty repost "F*** Off".

    After being interrupted during dinner, one girl started brightly with "Don't worry it's only.." . I just replied (impatiently) "what are you selling!?"

    and she fled.

    I feel a bit guilty about that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,190 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    A door to door guy from Eir called to my parents about 18 months ago and told them "I can see your out of contract".. its lucky that my parents knew they were in contract with VF as if they moved to Eir they would have been penalised by VF and have no way of proving that they were told this by the sales guy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    In the past, after being told I wasn't interested, they countered with "So you're not interested in saving money?" I replied with the clever and witty repost "F*** Off".

    I got something similar but far more sinister from a prick flogging alarms.

    "so you're not interested in your families safety?"



  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,583 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    I live in a new build estate so we get a lot of them coming to the door at the moment. Have a google doorbell so can screen first before I answer the door. We did sign up to phone watch a few months ago. It's a fairly thankless job and I'd say the attrition rate is high enough. I don't envy them.

    Most callers to the door seem to be legitimate but saw on the doorbell we had callers one day selling kitchen knives. Lots of the neighbours have cameras and video doorbells. The estate WhatsApp went into hyper drive that day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Why the overdrive reaction? Is somebody calling to a door such trauma nowadays that a collective panic sets in? I never realised answering the door and saying "Sorry, not interested" was such hassle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,037 ✭✭✭daheff


    somebody coming to your door holding sharp knives….



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge




  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    ah Jesus do you go into Homestore & More wearing a Kevlar vest just in case one of the staff loses the plot? 🤣🤣



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I don’t see what the issue is with salespeople. Just tell them you're not interested and they'll move on to the next house. I haven’t seen the JWs or the Mormons at the door since COVID. Are they still going door-to-door?



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 11,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    knew a woman that used to do the same, talk for every, get them to explain everything, do all the demos etc. Then explain her husband was away and could they come back next week to do it all over again. Not one ever did I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,458 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    JWs yeah, were going around my area last month.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,583 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    People felt is was a casing exercise. The person that called to the door was looking into my living room window with cupped hands. I have a feeling they tried my door handle as well from the video. Most door to door people just ring the bell and awkwardly stand there and move on. Talking about door to door sellers is not a common occurance on the WhatsApp group. I did not contribute to the discussion in the chat but people reported similar things the day the knife sellers came.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Nonsense. For starters they require bank details, and nobody is going to provide them to someone selling something they're not interested in.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There's always someone with some bile to offload. Lay off the Traveller community, entirely irrelevant to this thread.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Great post. Exactly my feelings. I changed electricity supplier via them 3/4 years ago and I'd have changed my Virgin Media contract too Vodafone when they called had I been near the end of my contract. The people who call at our door are all twenty-somethings, students or others desperate to make a little cash and not having much luck. I did similar sales work for a brief period thirty years ago and it's dispiriting work.

    It can be annoying when they call at a busy time but it takes little effort to be polite. They don't deserve abuse and a fair few on this thread may reflect on why they advocate violence or extreme rudeness towards youngsters. What does that achieve?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,458 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I'm as polite to them as they are to me - which varies.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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