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Laptops for linux

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,617 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,887 ✭✭✭Worztron


    Hey OP. I used https://novacustom.com/ . There's an option to have a blank drive or they can have it pre-installed with GNU/Linux.

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,617 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Scandinavian keyboard! So I'd need to budget for a keyboard replacement at my local laptop shop - €100 maybe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,153 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Be easier and cheaper to pay the shop to install Linux for you on a standard UK/Irl spec laptop - that's if you really really don't want to do the installation yourself.

    Look up "Linux live USB stick" - this is an easy way to boot up and try out Linux without changing your Windows hard disk at all. If you like what you see you can then choose the installer option and make a permanent installation. A lot easier than people think and there are lots of step-by-step guides out there.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,739 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Windows costs bugger all to vendors these days and the effort in setting up Linux configuration is written off over less units, so you'll find it near impossible to find a cost saving on a consumer laptop

    Business kit sold with FreeDOS installed (to justify that it has an OS and is a complete computer for some countries tax or tarrif rules; nothing else) can be cheaper; but you still need to install Linux yourself then.

    If you are absolutely certain you can't install it yourself, that 100 you're budgeting to replace a keyboard (which may not be anywhere near enough on a new unibody laptop - you need to wait until there are second hand parts available) will pay someone to install it for you.

    If you want something that's going to have good Linux hardware support, the best machine is always a two year old high end Lenovo. They're the default machine the developers of most non-Windows OSs use, and hence have good driver support - after a while anyway.



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  • Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The keyboard issue has simply not arrison for the two laptops I got from Germany. They will tell you on the spec exactly what keyboard it has. Remember they are buying job lots of business machines mainly from America and selling to German customers, as such they are describing the keyboards as foreign because they are not German. My Dell Toughbook has an American keyboard and my wives had an UK keyboard - both from German resellers.

    There are quite a few resellers on eBay so its a matter of shopping around till you get what you want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,153 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The only time I had a "problem" was 3 laptops ago - a Dell with a then fairly new Intel CPU - the hardware function keys didn't work with the "stable" kernel (kernel was too old) but installing the rolling release kernel fixed it.

    Since then I got another new Dell - no problems - and a fairly high spec Asus Vivobook recently and again everything "just works".

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,845 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Take a look at Framework, they're offering custom Linux builds. Their design allows for maximum customisation and upgradability.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,680 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    You can get some great deals on ebay, or maybe I was lucky :)

    I had to buy a new battery though, €40 euro.

    Had Win/linux on it but now Win/Android!

    The last new Laptop I bought yonks ago was a Samsung for €650. Garbage build quality.

    This Dell Business lappy has excellent build quality, a great quality matt screen, very solid.

    I've seen this model in some of the tech stores in the city but with much lower specs.

    I love you can use a smartphone style charger with it via the PD port.

    Can't see myself ever paying over €300 for a laptop ever again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭Sono Topolino


    I thought you wanted a laptop with Linux pre-installed. If you want to save money, your best bet is to install the Linux distribution of your choice on a refurbished Thinkpad. As long as it's not something complex like Arch Linux, it likely will work without a hitch.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,617 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Greetings from Ubuntu-land! I got a cracking Lenovo Thinkpad from a German seller. It came with a Swedish keyboard, so I ordered a replacement UK keyboard from China. I got the lad in the local phone shop to swap the keyboard in today, and I'm left with a fairly cracking machine.

    The power lead/connection is a bit different to what I've seen on previous Thinkpads - it looks like a USB-A shape.

    IMG_7381.jpeg IMG_7380.jpeg

    The mains plug was European, so I used an adaptor socket. Can I just use any local Thinkpad laptop mains lead instead, or are they different specs at all?

    I'm finding my way around Ubuntu. I tried OpenShot for video editing, but had a couple of inconsistencies. I'm trying Hotshot now, so we'll see how that goes. There one strange inconsistency, where the file manager shows a folder on my USB drive to be empty, but when I search for a particular file name, the actual files show up - which is a slight PITA.

    Thanks all for the inputs that brought me along the road. It certainly seems like a relief to get away from intrusive MSFT environments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,153 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    usually the mains lead will end, at the transformer end, in a "figure-8" (2-pin)

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    or "Mickey Mouse" (3-pin) plug

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    Can be replaced with any mains lead ending in the correct plug (doesn't have to be from a Thinkpad). Or cut the Europlug

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    off the other end of the mains lead and replace it with a UK/Irl 3-pin mains plug.

    OR use an adaptor that clamps over the Europlug and is fastened with a single screw.

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    I've found these guys good to buy from for electrical / TV / networking bits.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,617 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Thanks, it's the mickey mouse plug at present. I think there's a few lying round in the graveyard in work, so I'll see if I can grab one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,514 ✭✭✭JMcL


    I see from below you're now sorted, but Tuxedo are nice machines. They're mostly at the premium end and are built around chassis from the likes of Tongfang, GigaByte, and MSI, but come with driver support for all the hardware and most of all are very upgradable. I tend to buy a high spec machine that can have disk and memory upgraded to give me a 6-8 year lifespan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,617 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Any advice on the whether antivirus is necessary for an Ubuntu home laptop please? I'm seeing conflicting messages online.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,534 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Antivirus is not needed. About the only person who says otherwise would be an antivirus program salesman.



  • Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Antivirus on Linux is basically CLAM which is command line with a few GUI front ends. Basically I have installed it but it has never found anything and Linux viruses are rare enough. If you take care not to click on dodgy website links you should be OK. I also would use software centre to ensure that programs are prechecked by Canonical.

    I would advise that you install the standalone version of Firefox rather than the Canonical version which is packaged under SNAP. In fact I would expunge SNAP all together. Firefox is very secure and has some very good adblocker add-ons. Anything you do on Chrome is tracked and reports back to Google.

    Plug in external storage can be very finiky in Linux and often the system mounts the storage as root user which restricts your user access to it. Disks allows you to alter how it is mounted and who gets ownership of the drive - it's one of the most annoying aspects of Linux.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,153 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Never had any problems with USB storage under openSUSE - "just works".

    Never seen any system automount a USB as root. Any auto-mounting will be done under the DE (KDE, Gnome etc) and these run as the normal user (unless you're totally insane and log into the DE as root)

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It depends how the USB was created. If it was created by a root process it will often be given root as the owner and then there are all sorts of issues accessing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭tphase


    I 2nd that - been running various versions of Linux for ~20 years, never had antivirus installed, never had a virus issue



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,534 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Ive run ClamAV on a number of systems over the years, never detected a virus. The architecture of Linux doesn't really lend itself to being vulnerable to viruses to begin with.

    I suppose if we all went around with our linux boxes logged in as root, and used root as the main user it would be a different story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,845 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭tphase




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,534 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    There actually was a thread today, a person getting a notification saying they had a virus - Click this link to install MSF Defender….

    On Linux, Just do killall browser-name and voila.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,887 ✭✭✭Worztron


    Similar for me. I've been running GNU/Linux since 2008. Never any issue with viruses. No AV installed. :-)

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭Lucien_Sarti


    I used Windows on home computers for the last 24 years, mainly for convenience of purchase; the current 5 y.o. machine is showing its age.But with the inbuilt NSA surveillance recall feature on Windows 11 decided: not getting that – no way José.

    Did some research on the suitability for Linux of easy to buy Windows 11 preinstalled laptops and found the general advice was most laptops nowadays are fine with Linux. I couldn’t find any reviews online for Linux on Lenovo Ideapads – only Thinkpads. But took a chance on one for €430.

    Other than an initial problem with Etcher flashing (had to abandon Ubuntu went with Mint),everything worked fine – trackpad, WiFi card, files (Office ->LibreOffice): all just worked. The only basic things I have left to check is compatibility with an old printer and the camera.

    I’d advise go for it – much easier nowadays than before. You’ll always get something working eventually.

    And of course, no chronic extreme bloat – what a relief!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,369 ✭✭✭thereiver


    I bought a laptop on adverts ie it s good enough for running the apps I use chrome browser YouTube media player vlc ,mp3 player cost 150 euro , I don't play games on it . Someday I,install Linux on it as it would give a longer battery life . You,ll need at least 500 euro of you want to use it for gaming or as your main device to access the internet .I read in pcpro an article about the ibm Thinkpad laptop eg it's easy to fix all the parts are designed to be replaced easily .you can buy a great laptop for 800 euro but in 3 years time it might be hard to get parts .Some company's are better than other .pcpro.co.uk has good articles on laptops detailed

    Laptop review s



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