Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Read OP for mod warnings before posting*

Ireland has fundamentally changed and we're seeing the consequences reported more often in the media as it can't be ignored or swept under the rug anymore.

many of the issues caused by the massive influx of new arrivals in the last 15 years (accelerated massively in the last 5)

Repeating the same cliches over and over means nothing without actually pointing out some actual specific examples of what you claim.

Ireland is fundamentally changed and not all of it is for the better.

In what way? How?

Are you delighted that the majority of the youth can't get a start on their adult lives be it getting accomodation or starting a family? Our birth rate will plummet and not just for native nationals.

When it comes to discussion about immigration and housing are people just not aware of the concept of sustainability?

If we have a housing crisis then we are obviously not providing enough housing for the people who are already here.

If we are ramping up our immigration numbers and those immigrants need housing then there is a pretty obvious problem on the horizon.

If Person A fills a litre bucket with 500ml of water and then Person B comes along and decides to try and pour an extra 750ml into the bucket can we really say the 250ml water pouring out everywhere isn't Person B's fault because it was actually Person A who filled the bucket halfway to begin with? I don't think so.

Our government should be able to recognise that things are about to overflow and should be able to stop adding to the problem.

Immigration didn't cause the housing crisis but I don't think we can pretend that continuing levels of immigration aren't going to make it worse.

Does anyone actually believe that the current rates of immigration are in any way sustainable?

There must be some figure above which we would be looking at absolutely catastrophic consequences if borders are not controlled?

Does Ireland even have any control over it's borders?

Should Ireland even have any control over it's borders?

Yes, Ireland is a great and wonderful nation and it's better than it was. We've been on an upward trajectory. Now we reap the benefits of that upward trajectory.

Upward trajectory combined with a poor understanding of sustainability is a good way to start a downward turn.

What goes up…

I don't think we even have a real government, they’ve outsourced almost everything to NGOs, housing, immigration, public service, all farmed out to NGOs and private companies. They were elected to do these jobs , but apparently, it’s easier to just pay someone else to handle the mess, yet they still get paid handsomely. It’s like having two governments, one that’s invisible, and another that’s completely useless.

The immigration policy is not working 80 percent of asylum seekers cross over the border with NI . The number applying have escalated in recent years a backlog of those awaiting decisions and it's rising . Retirement homes and hotels being converted to IPAS . Few deportations and few returns even for those have applied for asylum before .

Medical services with long waiting lists . The ever rising costs to keep asylum seekers. The Trump tariffs could easily plunge this over dependent country on multi nationals into recession.

All been discussed before .

And the government now admit 90% are not eligible for asylum and are purely here for economic reasons and they are still slow to do anything about it, primarily because it keeps the gravy train going but when it falls apart it will be seismic.

Tourism numbers are down for the first three months of the year by a significant percentage because hotels have been out of the normal loop.

My biggest question would be why does it take so long?

The length seems ridiculous. How long does each "case" take?

And the government now admit 90% are not eligible for asylum

Where did this information come from, some links? and if it's true then it's proof the system works.

Nonsense. There is no plan to increase the population to 6 million, unless you have proof of this conspiracy theory?

They have increased staff but likely nowhere near enough. It has to be a factor anyways. Suspect having to identify who people are etc takes time, specially without identification (which should be a black mark in most cases imo). Be good for some transparency about why.

Faster processing would save so much money in the long run, so it's a worthwhile investment.

Do you have a link to those figures? If they are correct it means the system has identified that they are not eligible. Obviously.

But, but ,but refugees are going into old schools, hotels, nursing homes etc and don't affect the housing market. Can all refugee industry shills that haven't jumped ship please target the minister for housing, thanks- this is an existential threat to the industry.

"James Browne, the minister for housing, said that the "increase in volume and pace of international protection is a significant driver in social housing demand and local authority homeless accommodation".

According to a cabinet document, Browne also said that local authorities have reported that family reunification is "leading to increased presentations to homeless services as families arrive in the state with no accommodation available".