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>www.rte.ie/news/clarity/< Fact checking from RTE! Would you accept their bias on issues?

  • 03-04-2025 04:30PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭


    This has been launched today.

    I thought it might be something similar to Journal FactCheck? Which is: -

    • FactCheck at The Journal is a signatory to the International Fact-Checking Network’s Code of Principles, which you can read in full, here.

    But no it is another way for RTE to just categorise their own published articles.

    'Clarity is RTÉ's focus on disinformation, discourse, and democracy.

    In a changing world, people face a barrage of claims and counter-claims. On many issues, it is increasingly hard to tell whether something is fair opinion or a false 'fact'.

    In the journalism published under the Clarity strand, RTÉ will demystify complicated issues, debunk deliberate attempts to distort reality, detail how online discourse impacts democracy, and explain exactly how RTÉ verifies its quality journalism. It will also ask the difficult questions, even when it is uncomfortable to do so.'

    As the title questions would you trust RTE viewpoints on issues?

    I am just using the 'Journal' as a comparison example, I known people don't look at that in favourable light as well.

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,810 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    Absolutely. Despite what some on here like to say, RTE is still regarded as being unbiased in their coverage:

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rte-radio-television-ireland/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I'd trust RTE a lot more than most sources of information including the CA forum and most of the trolls that live here

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 707 ✭✭✭StormForce13


    In general I'd trust RTE as regards facts, but would take its claim that it will also ask the difficult questions, even when it is uncomfortable to do so with a large dose of salt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭corkie


    I was inspired to have a look at the Reaction on 'Xitter'! Usual vitriol as can be expected. "2 Days late posting about it"!

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Facts are facts, folks.

    The way some believe is their own opinions are facts, when they're not.

    You're supposed to take the facts and make up your own mind about what they mean - not the other way around.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,909 ✭✭✭✭kneemos




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Correct.

    However many believe the sun shines out of the arse of their opinions and no facts to dispute them are allowed.

    Same folk will bang on about 'lefty liberal echo chambers' too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I suspect no matter what RTE does OP you'd probably think it's fake news etc etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,663 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    You know what they say - opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭corkie


    The deserves a reply since you called me out!?

    Where did you pull that opinion of me from? Would I be creating threads on RTE's programs if that was anyway true of me.

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Sorry, maybe I'm mistaken. More a comment on the people who complain about "Mainstream Media" but in reality no matter what mainstream media did they'd never be satisfied due to a kind of conspiratorial paranoia of what they call the 'elite'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Frost Spice


    Those who say that the mainstream media is biased or flat out lying to us - at all times - tend to be ok with anything from the mainstream media that suits their views.

    "Question everything"/"think critically" tends to fall by the wayside when it comes to some guy's/gal's personal YouTube video if it chimes with their views also. They don't complain about media bias when it shares THEIR bias.

    Now I don't think there's any media outlet that isn't SOMEwhat biased. Ideally all media should be completely impartial but that's a tricky one to achieve, however BBC and RTÉ are NOT Pravda, much as some like to pretend they are. I try to find sources that I neither agree nor disagree with, but it's difficult.

    Some things just occur - the story is merely about something that happened. Bias doesn't come into it. News reporting isn't op ed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    ffs. It wasn't that long ago all that shite with Tubridy happened and people were saying RTE had lost the trust of the public.

    Fact checking brought to us by lying c**ts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭InAtFullBack


    The bias in RTE stems from their omission of coverage on certain incidents. It's easy to say they appear unbiased when they shy away from covering certain issues.

    For example, the last debate prior to the election they deliberately left any debate on migration issues until almost 11.30pm and then ran it through in a few minutes. This despite regular polling showing migration was high up in the issues ahead of the election.

    A massive dis-service to democracy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭corkie


    Just to clarify my creating this thread and the process involved.

    • I got notification of RTE's post on a social (not X) today.
    • Timestamp of RTE Post! 12:44
    • I replied with a "Note!🔖 Clarity!?" at 12:45 first reply in thread.
    • Posted that because I wanted to research it, but had other things to do that took me away from my laptop.
    • After returning home and looking into it, created thread at 04:30PM
    • Around 06:01PM took a look at 'Xitter' reaction to it, so thread not influenced by content there.

    The app in question, notifies me of posts from accounts that interest me(pre selected) RTE News account is one!

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,029 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    This unfortunately seems to be a feature of most of the lily livered Irish media set, leaving plot holes in news items or ignoring incidents altogether only serves the purposes of certain others to fill the information vacuum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,776 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    RTÉ are massively left leaning in their reporting of migration and immigration issues.

    Also in connection to crimes committed by certain people, they have basically not fully reported or prioritised certain facts and stories that were known to them and known to and reported by other media outlets at the time of the reports.

    Looks like in the last couple of years that there is indeed a bias on behalf of RTÉ…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Exit poll showed immigration was way down the list.

    A perfect example of an opinion that isn't backed up in any way by facts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,909 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Immigration isn't an issue. We need them to fill the vacancies.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭corkie


    When searching for Media Bias articles! Came across the below:-

    For the first time main source of News for Irish public is Online rather than Television – Digital News Report Ireland 2024
    https://www.cnam.ie/dnr-2024/

    • Trust in News: Trust in news is down slightly overall, but selected outlets have seen a rise in their percentage points.  At the top of this ranking, RTÉ (+1pp) and The Irish Times (+2pp) remain the most trusted outlets.
    • Source of News: For the first time ‘online, excluding social media’ (33%) has overtaken TV viewing (31%) as ‘the main source of news’.

    Even if RTE have a bias (for political or advertisement purposes) they still rank high as a trusted source!

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,192 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Anything coming out of rte I would take with a large dose salts.

    Yes they report on issues and so on that we know are actually happening or have happened but I feel they are a mouthpiece for the government and as such h terrified of asking hard questions or rocking the boat.

    Their behaviour over the past couple of years and the issues that have been brought to light have not helped my belief that they are self-serving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Why should the behaviour of a bunch of self-serving suits in the background have anything to do with what their journalists produce?

    The best coverage of the RTE payments scandel came from RTE News. I remember Brian Dobson giving Kevin Bakhurst (his boss!) a proper earfull on the News At One one of the days.

    Also, how are they a mouthpiece for the government? This is all just bullsh*t twitter talking points that has zero basis in reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,780 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    If they have a bias, it's that they try too hard sometimes to be unbiased. So if it could be seen as supporting one side, they might temper their language. But I guess it's something they have to do anyway.

    Having said that, it's still better than most other sources.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,185 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Also in connection to crimes committed by certain people, they have basically not fully reported or prioritised certain facts and stories that were known to them and known to and reported by other media outlets at the time of the reports.

    There is the case of the murder of a man in a Tralee graveyard by members of his family and extended family and their subsequent trial and imprisonment

    The case involved travellers, but at no point in the reporting has it ever mentioned that they were travellers.

    Are these the kind of facts that you believe RTE did not prioritise?

    And if so why do you think they should be prioritised ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,087 ✭✭✭prunudo


    RTE has massive editorial bias and very much a mouthpiece for not just government but whatever the narrative of the day is. They are bought and paid for by the government bailout and even their international news is often rehashed pieces by Afp, Rueters with clear agenda driven pieces.

    You would be mad to view anything they put out without a pinch of skepticism. Anyone who watched their contributions during covid pandemic and their deadly silence as evidence has come to light since would see they aren't serious about reporting the news.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,909 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    They haven't discussed my view,however how off the wall it is,therefore biased.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭aero2k




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 707 ✭✭✭StormForce13


    Exactly.

    So it's clear that they don't consider all of the perspectives on current affairs. QED.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    RTE didn't scream "foreigners out"/"filthy traveller scum" when I wanted them to, so obviously not to be trusted.



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