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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,417 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Maybe the US will be the 21st century's Soviet Union.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,980 ✭✭✭yagan


    I thought his last update on the Mexico and Canada auto tariffs was that it would apply only to finished products, which means a car could be made in Mexico and Canada but would not face tariffs if final assembly was in the US, like the way cars used to arrive in kits and were assembled in the Ford factory in Cork.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,038 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I remember reading about 10/15 years back on how Michael Dell played the production line site game against State governments in the US, suggesting that he would move next door if he didn't get a better deal from the State Govt. Dell eventually moved his production lines from Limerick to India, Mumbai I think.

    I thought Dell moved out of Limerick to Poland. Did they move again?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    They didn't last too long in Poland, apparently it turned out to be more expensive than they thought. Sold the plant to Foxconn and moved production to China.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    So 20 Nobel Laureates say the tariffs are a bad idea and the VP says the same people said shipping US manufacturing to Asia was a great idea.

    https://x.com/GuntherEagleman/status/1907416905637380105

    The amount of **** this administration just makes up!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,061 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    According to Irish Indo Elon is leaving "government" in the US



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭aidanodr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,091 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    On listening to RTE about Trump's threatened tariffs on imports to the U.S, specifically the Pharma industry imports, I was made aware of the knock-on effects they could have for the U.S Medical community, the Medical Insurance business and the U.S population generally, something I had no thoughts about. If the U.S-based Pharma have to pay tariffs to the Trump Admin of products made in their overseas plants, then will pass on the additional costs to their customers. Those customers will include Pharmacy chains, Medical hospital chains and Medical insurance Co's all of whom will pass on the costs.

    Mention was made on the programme that some pharma products will travel cross-border [similar to metals used in auto production] several times before the items are in a finished state for sale and use. Medical Insurance Co's would presumably alter their TAC's for customers when the pharmacy and hospital claims start rolling in so their stay profitable. Patients health would presumably suffer as a result. If this is correct, then I would not like to be a medical insurance Co boss in the U.S.

    Another probable side effect might be an increase in cross-border smuggling of the tariffed items, and possibly other items the smugglers might start cost rumours about for profit purposes, all federal and state tax free.

    The same RTE programme has mentioned a rumour about that Tesla shares market price have risen on foot of another rumour that Musk is going to spend more time on the Tesla industry and less on his role in the Trump Admin due to the falling Tesla share prices. RTE made clear it was a rumour. Mention of a name in respect of whom might be behind the rumoured change in focus interests could be costly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,747 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Somehow inexplicably the guy who co-founded Tesla, revolutionised the space industry, took over Twitter etc. found being a civil servant wasn't everything he had built it up to be…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,139 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    There are similarities but somewhat more along the lines of Putin's Russia.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,091 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Sorry, I had in mind the staff located in Dell Bray on Boghall Road as well as the Limerick production plant. The Bray centre had about 1100 staff in the sales, marketing and various after-sales sections for Europe. I had understood the jobs were being transferred to Mumbai. For some months before it closed, Dell staffers from abroad were coming and going regularly observing and learning how the centre did it's business with online, on-phone and personal-visit customers. A good number of the Irish-based staff were moved to a new Dell building at Cherrywood in county Dun Laoghaire/Rathdown. It was as big a loss for Co Wicklow as the closure of the Limerick plat had for that location.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    It's hard to keep track at this stage with all the flip flopping. Realistically just the uncertainty around it all may just make manufacturers stay put and ride out the tariffs (aka just increase prices for consumers)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭nachouser


    It's Liberation Day; the day the average American can celebrate being liberated from even more of their disposable income. Hurrah!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭Patrick2010




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,091 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    RTE has the White House confirming that Musk will leave the public service as soon as his business with it is complete. I wish him well in his advances.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Wolf359f




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,980 ✭✭✭yagan


    Well I've seen warnings about an eventual fracture between Trump and Musk. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump in response to recent bitter republican town hall meetings comes out deflecting all negative feedback about DOGE unto Musk. He constantly did that on his first term, talk someone up as the bestest, and then badmouthing them out the door.

    Question is did Musk get everything he wanted from hitching his EV to Trump?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 996 ✭✭✭Detritus70


    Co-founded Tesla, lmao.

    You mean bought it, shafted the people who *actually* founded it and the only car he had a major influence over is currently a boat anchor that's scuttling it along with Musks deranged behaviour and fascist tendencies.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/uoPU5JedCR0?si=Wmd-uo2TQeuzGp7M

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Canada have offered to drop all their tariffs with America if America do the same. My understanding is that the Canada tariffs were to protect their market being flooded with cheap US farm produce?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    Musk getting the bullet. That didn't last long



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Here you go .. from her X account:

    "This “scoop” is garbage.Elon Musk and President Trump have both *publicly* stated that Elon will depart from public service as a special government employee when his incredible work at DOGE is complete."

    I cannot see a huge difference tween what Leavitt said and Bade said TBH .. he is leaving it seems, the only debate is the timing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 996 ✭✭✭Detritus70


    In other Trump related news, experts are floating the distinct possibility that Russia could indeed attack the Baltic States, presumably Putin thinks his good buddy won't interfere, as he has previously stated he won't rush to the aid of countries that he feels don't deserve it.

    We live in a time where it is possible that a state of emergency would allow Trump to seize power in the US and Russia could attack NATO. This is a non-zero possibility and something that should worry anyone with even the most basic grasp of global politics and a >60 IQ. Meaning a lot of Americans will be wholly untroubled by this.

    https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/03/07/what-baltic-intelligence-agencies-say-about-the-risks-of-peace-talks-with-russia_6738924_4.html

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,511 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    I think it's simpler than that. I'm quite sure that somebody has explained correctly what tariffs might mean for the American and global economies. However, he's so dumb and narcissistic that he is literally incapable of taking advice from anyone. He literally has his own idea and nothing will come in the way of that, not even logic and sense. He's said several times that he's his own best counsellor, so I doubt if he even has an agenda. He just wants to try to prove himself right in the face of pretty much every reputable economist out there. Time will tell as to how its going to turn out. I suspect - not well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,980 ✭✭✭yagan


    I think Lithuania is the Baltic state with the high ethnic Russian population, he probably thinks of them as his fifth column.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭ArcadiaJunction


    The EU won't like giving up their title.

    Mod Edit: Warned for trolling

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    SKY have there ticker with this news:

    "A source close to the White House has told our economics and data editor Ed Conway there will different bands of tariffs.

    The bands will differ both by country and by industry.

    The specific band each country or industry is placed into will depend on how the White House views each country's barriers to entry for trade.

    Conway added that how a tariff is defined is open to interpretation.

    Trump wants to mirror tariffs imposed by countries on US imports - but the UK's 20% VAT rate could, for the White House, count as a tariff"

    And our 23% Vat rate

    Thats another thing - I heard trump and his yes men/women spinning the fact that Europe has VAT on most goods and this is an issue BUT failing to mention the US has the same - its called SALES TAX



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Trump tariffs to be 10pc, 15pc or 20pc depending on country and industry - Sky News
    A source close to the White House has told Sky News there will three separate bands of tariffs - 10pc, 15pc, and 20pc.
    The bands will differ both by country and by industry, Sky news reported.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @aidanodr

    Thats another thing - I heard trump and his yes men/women spinning the fact that Europe has VAT on most goods and this is an issue BUT failing to mention the US has the same - its called SALES TAX

    Such dishonesty from a man who promoted the tariffs as something the exporting companies would have to pay.

    He really does love the poorly-educated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭mountain




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    He is going to divide and conquer with EU ,some countries 10% others 20% , we will be 20 minimum and left hung out to dry .



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