Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

I'm renewing the BWG deal. Is a current reading needed for a continuation with Flogas. I don't want to be on the phone for ages.

Just uploaded my data to Energy Pal and when the solar generation is included the new Flogas Day/night plan comes to an annual cost of €441 which is great.

However there is another plan there that beats it called Energia Smart Data & €75 cashback. Energy Pal is saying that would cost me just €371 for the year when the feed in tarrif for solar is included. It means activating the smart meter in exchange for a €75 bribe. It also means higher unit rates (day 27.08, peak 28.39, night 14.5) but for my low enough usage they must be off set by a higher feed in tariff (20c vs the 18.5 cent of Flogas), a lower standing charge of €236 and the €75 cashback. Its counter intuitive to be paying higher unit rates but be saving overall but this situation can apply to low users of electricity who have solar. In this scenario getting a lower standing charge is important even if the unit rates are slightly higher.

Anyway I feel like Im dancing on the head of a pin to make a decision. Its either go smart and save €70 over the year but accept the Energia variable unit rate will likely go up by 8-10%. Or remain dumb and forgo the €70 saving now while locked in to the Flogas fixed rate for 18 months.

Standard - Phoned them, no wait time at all, explained I didn't want to activate a smart plan and wanted to stay standard.

Maybe I missed it over all the posts on the past few days, but is the BWG offer now d/n ? and not 24 hour?
Seems a decent plan if so.
*EDIT,
never mind.
Rang them there. Straight on to the 24hour plan at 24.03c kw.
Can change any time to d/n with no fee.
Thanks guys.

@Muahahaha

Both Energia and Flogas Microgeneration rates are the same I believe

Energia 20c incl Vat

Flogas 18.5c + vat = 20c

I'm with Flogas(Fixed contract ends this month). 2 weeks ago I called them(when I got the letter) and they offered me rates higher than competitors so I said I'd leave it. Today I did get an email offering me a better rate which itself was not much more than the BWG one listed on this thread. Instead of having to make a phone call or try the BWG link I just clicked "accept" on the loyalty email. The difference was only marginally higher. We're talking EAB difference of €32 a year or 61c per week compared to BWG. Not worth the hassle.

Post the link so we can review, it may have higher standing charge etc .

All the options are there in the link posted earlier by @Ardrageen , I'll repost it as it's a few pages back now. Gas only is there in one of the tabs.

Oh right, didn't realise - just thought it was DF and EO. My mistake. Thanks!

I need to ring to switch to a non smart plan is what I'm gathering?

The new renewal link has a day night rate, which I don't have on my non activated smart meter

I've been on 331.33 EUR up until this point (d/n plan, dual fuel) and they said on the phone it'll be same after the renewal.

That's the same as for their smart plans apparently.

Only have a smart metre since the end of August so don't have a full year of data yet and missing out best months for solar export and when energy usage is low as we have a heat pump that barely runs in July and August. Only got an electric car last month so will be adding a nice bit onto the night rate. Currently at 43.3% usage on night rate.

Looking like Energia Day Night saves a nice bit over sticking with the BWG. Have added BWG Day/Night rural as custom plan.

Hoping to add more solar and maybe DIY battery storage later in the year. Hopefully next year when I have a full year plus of data usage I can figure out if it's worth going to a smart plan if I can shift enough of the load.

Got the initial BWG email but nothing since and I think contract ended in mid March (god know what rate I am on no). Tried to re-sign up there with the link shared. I am on an unactivated smart meter on a day / night rate. Anyone know how I get those readings, I only see one reading on the meter?