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Saorview Updates - 2025

  • 06-01-2025 10:48AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭


    New thread for 2025. Post your discussions and observations on Saorview's technical aspects, tests and channel changes.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭butwhynot


    Saorview Information (29 and 30) have switched from MHEG5 screens to video this morning

    Surely they could increase RTE One's bitrate instead of wasting the bandwidth on a screen with an email address on it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    I see they're also back to the PT8612 sync test pattern on channel 25 (HD). They were showing that odd-looking Philips pattern (the one on the MHEG-5 and HbbTV test channels) that seemed like it was made in Photoshop or something!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    They’re still transmitting the MHEG stream too. My TV briefly displays the normal video but then flickers and changes to the MHEG version.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    HD test on 25 has returned to the Philips-based static pattern.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭brick man


    Can someone explain why they keep changing the test card , like is it a technical reason? Just curious



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 King Wooey


    What are the chances of new Saorview channels in 2025 besides the likes of Sky Arts which is already on Freeview for anybody with dual access.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    It looks like UCB radio may have left Saorview 211. The audio has gone silent and the EPG listing is empty, with the banner "Programmes no longer available".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,152 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Its listener will be ringing Liveline to complain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,486 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    And it has been removed from the list on Saorview Information channel 30



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,916 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Not a single person wondering where it's gone I'd say.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,486 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    Just did a rescan and 211 has now been removed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Aidan McCarthy


    That is a good question but we don't know yet. It could be BBC news channel or DW or France 24 English or euro news but I don't see the point BBC 1 BBC 2 or channel 4 on saorview.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,273 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Not a chance. BBC has a funding crisis, it's cutting non-UK access to services not increasing it.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    For channel 4 to increase audience for ad opt out channel.

    Are we sure a channel is being added. I'd guess it will be Sky Mix or Arts.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Aidan McCarthy


    that I don’t know but it could be sky mix or sky arts but as I said the other day it maybe bbc news euro news France 24 English DW English and I also said this that I don’t see the point of having BBC 1 BBC2 and channel 4

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,273 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It could be xHamster 🙄 there's really no point in indulging in wild speculation based on nothing.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Many years ago on Boards I argued the way DTT was going it Ireland it would largely just be RTÉ ONE, 2, TV3 and TG4, I feel outside of sky that's largely been proven to be the case. (Not sure if I can count RTÉ News as a Channel)

    So the only change expected to the Saorview line up is the dropping of the RTÉ Digital Radio Stations? And that might not happen until 2026! Though I do expect the minister to make a decision "soon".


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Aidan McCarthy


    Yes digital radio stations may disappear on saorview. Some people do listen to radio on saorview but most people don't. Saorview is use to the way we watch television not for listen to the radio



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Under section 103 of the broadcasting act 2009 RTÉ have put in a proposal to axe their Digital Radio stations (Save for RTÉ Gold which will remain on Saorview, I believe some must people listen to radio on saorview if it is to be saved, but most don't so I don't really know why they'd save it and not the others).

    RTÉ put the proposal for the closure of their digital radio station to the minster at the end of the 2024, and failed to meet their target of 2024 to close the digital radio stations as per their "New Direction" strategy, which was produced following the RTÉ scandal of 2023.

    It was expected that the CnaM would forward their Strategic Assessment to the Department this month, who will now carry out another of other aspect of the decision before the minster makes a decision later this year.

    Due to the low number of TV stations, I'd not be surprised if a large number of people in Saorview land end up listening to the Radio more than lets say via satellite or cable. But I don't believe that the JNLR actually takes into consideration Radio viewing on TV, I suspect that TAM Ireland does, it would be interesting to know what radio listership is like if collected by TAM Ireland.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,152 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Personally, if I'm watching something from say 8 to 8:30pm and there's nothing interesting then until the News at 9, I always just listen to the radio via Saorview while I'm waiting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    RTE had announced plans to close all of the ex-DAB stations before, but there was a backlash specifically for Gold. I'd say that was factored in this time around. I don't really listen to Will Leahy's show much now (I don't listen to morning radio that much in general) but I did remember requests coming in from people who were tuned in on Saorview.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Yes under Dee Forbes' Strategy 2024 they made that plan, Gold got some notice, but ultimately RTÉ got side tracked and never put forward an application to the minister, they also seemed to think they could unilaterally axe Lyric FM, got people worried following a Prime Time programme, then that was reduced to it was moving out of Limerick under the Strategy 2024, followed by some of its broadcast over to Cork… followed by staying in Limerick.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,273 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    They were never going to axe Lyric FM, that was a "nuclear option".

    Reminiscent of the years when Dept. of Foreign Affairs were asked for possible cutbacks and taking the absolute pish they put the Vatican at the top of the list - in fairness, having two embassies in Rome is a waste of money. But they knew that the government would never allow that cut to be made - until they did! They should never have brought it back either, the pseudo-state called the Vatican is an enemy of the Irish people as far as I'm concerned.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    They were never going to axe Lyric FM because no Minister in the right mind would agree to close the service down. RTÉ's "nuclear option" was to suggest that if they didn't get what they wanted they would have to start closing services down, they choose a "nuclear option" that would upset a huge number of people, including many that don't listen to Lyric FM and have no interest in it but see it as an actual public service broadcast. It was pure propaganda from RTÉ, while they mismanaged the organisation.

    Unlike the Dept of FA, RTÉ cannot unilaterally remove a broadcast channel/station from the air, as under the act they must put a proposal into the department for such closures.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭decor58


    Was the plan ever to close Lyric or close the Limerick studios and move the studios to Dublin and Cork.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    IMO their plan was to upset a group of people. I went to the Oireachtas Committee as every Senator and TD from Limerick filed in after RTÉ made the decision to move Lyric FM from Limerick. RTÉ after the Prime Time show as gifted 10m extra per year for 5 years and the Government agreed to move the NSO under the NCH and out of RTÉ.

    This is why RTÉ GOLD is not part of their current plan.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭lgs 4


    I don't think there is any FM frequencies available for RTE Gold.That won't cause co channel in interference



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I am saying that in the New Direction 2024 Dee Forbes plan was to move Lyric to Dublin and Cork, this was dropped (after getting the NSO out of RTÉ and 10m extra), while the axing of the Digital Radio stations was not brought to fruition, but GOLD got some push back, though RTÉ failed to even make an application to axe the digital channels, in the end Bakhursts Strategy 2028 axes all of the digital stations in 2024 save for GOLD, though he failed to make the application until the very end of 2024. The other digital stations will be removed from Saorview at some point.*

    *I may have confused the names of Forbes' and Bakhurst's master plans, they may have also.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,273 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Of course there is, even in Dublin. 105.2 does nothing most of the year, for one.

    Could get a bit messy though with very different frequencies in different places - having another national network with all transmitters within a well defined range e.g. 100-102 Today FM isn't as easy.

    Don't see it happening though. RTE can't afford to run it without advertising (which would be seen as unfair to stations with advertising) and if they did have ads on it, that would also be seen as unfair by the stations with advertising… basically the commercials don't want RTE to be let do anything

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Huge question as to why DAB was drop by RTÉ and ONIC are taking it up in 2025!


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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