Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

Wolf359f · 30-03-2025 12:21AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123310588#Comment_123310588

All valid, but has nothing to do with tariffs.

When iPhones land in the US, they are tariffed on their country of origin, in this case China, it doesn't make a difference if it was designed in California or sold by Apple Ireland etc…

Damien360 · 30-03-2025 12:59AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123310594#Comment_123310594

Surely a blessing from Trump is enough ?

We have seen more than once that the media sways the vote and populatiy of any incumbent. Trump has an iron grip of the media. It's one way traffic for US media and he can do no wrong.

Rawr · 30-03-2025 07:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123310631#Comment_123310631

A Trump blessing (if the Orange Lummox can extract himself from his own arse long enough to manage one) is a bit of a mixed bag. In a State/District where a non-MAGA candidate is a significant threat to the MAGA canditate, Donnies endoresment tends to work against them. Theres also the unreliable factor of trying to implant this person into the MAGAverse as an alternative to Trump. I doubt many of the cultist have even considered the possibility that Trump cant legally run anymore. If he’s not on the ballot, I`m not certain MAGA voters will be anywhere near as energised to vote.

This is also all assuming that Donnie even goes through the normal process of helping the next canditate in a timely fashion. We saw how this played out with Biden & Harris. Frankly Biden should have nominated Harris to succeed him from the beginning to allow her (or any other potential candidate) to get more exposure ahead of the vote. Donnie will likely not bother at all until well into the year of the vote, and likely right up until that point he will tease people with the idea of illegally running for a 3rd Term, torpedoing the GOP canditate’s chances in the process.

Asdfgh2020 · 30-03-2025 08:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123310770#Comment_123310770

he doesn’t deserve to be referred to as ‘Donnie’ ……it’s almost offensive😡

Will_I_Amnt · 30-03-2025 08:20AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123310562#Comment_123310562

And your point is still inaccurate. The Constitution grants Congress the sole authority to declare war.

Trump could argue it’s a “national security” move, butin the absence of a clear threat from Greenland, Congress and courts would almost certainly see it as an over reach. It would alsi breach the UN Charter,

But my original point stands. The military chain of command are perfectly entitled to resist an illegal, unconstitutional order and the order coming from Trump doesnt make it legal or constitutional. Officers swear oaths to the Constitution, not to the President. Courts could intervene via injunctions, and Congress could cut funding or impeach.

Economics101 · 30-03-2025 08:37AM

Not only does Trump not understand the basic economics of trade, he doesn't even understand what every student learns in Economics 101 (😁). He now seems to think that when car prices rise people will but more of them.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/29/business/trump-auto-prices-tariffs/index.html

Quote: “I couldn’t care less,” Trump said. “I hope they raise their prices, because if they do, people are gonna buy American-made cars. We have plenty.”

Definitely a candidate for an IgNoble prize.

looksee · 30-03-2025 08:49AM

A deeply disturbing look at one of the more quiet results of the Trump regime dictats. Services for disabled people are being removed, including sign language services and provision of supported education for disabled children.

This video talks about what is happening,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z48jkaMc-U

it is based on a Guardian article here https://www.theguardian.com/global/2025/mar/27/us-disability-rights-trump

Wolf359f · 30-03-2025 08:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123310815#Comment_123310815

I never mentioned trump declaring war. He needs congress for that, but he can still order the military to invade Greenland without congressional approval for a 90 days.

In that case those orders are legal and soldiers/generals would have to follow them.

tarvis · 30-03-2025 09:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123310860#Comment_123310860

Just as Huffington post reports his golfing bill since taking power this time - barely 3 months- has already hit $26million - to ferry himself and his entourage to his own golf club and pay for playing costs/ accommodation/ security there - to a club he owns - priorities?

everlast75 · 30-03-2025 09:26AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123310901#Comment_123310901

Trump - "we need to cut public spending waste....

...

Now watch this drive"

eightieschewbaccy · 30-03-2025 09:27AM

For the posters who've frequently called Trump a peacemaker, I guess that's even further out the window since he's not ruling out invading Greenland? He's pretty clearly behaving like a warmonger at this stage.

Rawr · 30-03-2025 10:26AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123310789#Comment_123310789

Kind of what I’m going for. I feel that a childish man deserves to be referred to with a Child’s name. If he were ever likely to act his age, and not his shoe size, I might feel the desire to use another name than…Donnie.

Economics101 · 30-03-2025 10:39AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123310867#Comment_123310867

The US has been involved in many wars since WW2. How often, if ever, did Congress declare war? AFAIK, never.

What about subsequent Congressional approval, which I suppose was implicit if Congress voted for the necessary military expenditures?

Will_I_Amnt · 30-03-2025 10:42AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123310867#Comment_123310867

But we're talking about Trump TAKING Greenland. Trump wants to keep Greenland long-term as a territory or strategic asset. So Congress would need to get involved, either by declaring war on Denmark or passing Authorization for Use of Military Force. Without it, the legal basis for holding it collapses after 90 days.

circadian · 30-03-2025 10:56AM

Denmark should be supplied with the latest anti-aircraft defences and artillery to deploy near US bases in Greenland.

"We have assessed Mr Trump's concerns and agree with our allies in the US. Therefore we have increased our security footprint in Greenland to ensure protection against any potential aggressors."

Wolf359f · 30-03-2025 11:09AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123311061#Comment_123311061

You're saying the chain of command won't follow Trump because if he orders them to invade Greenland (without congressional approval) they would be illegal orders.

I'm saying those orders would in fact be legal.

Rawr · 30-03-2025 11:10AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123311052#Comment_123311052

Although the US has technically been at war several times since WWII, it’s hasn’t been legally at war with a Declaration of War since WWII. That was the last time the US Declaired War on anyone.

Since then, US Military action has usually been under the umbrella of a UN Resolution. The Korean War was a UN action that mostly involved US forces. In that case it was sort of the UN itself going to war with North Korea. The Vietnam War was styled as a «Police Action» in support of the South Vietnam government, despite it being clearly a direct conflict between the US (+ Australia for some reason) and North Vietnam.

Even the Gulf Wars were not done on the back of a Declaration of War, despite them having all the elements of a traditional War.

Possibly the most clear cut case for a Declaration of War in modern times was when Argentina invaded the Falklands. The UK however chose to act under established UN Resolutions regarding self-defence. They would have had every right to declare war in that case, but the legal headaches around being in a State of War ment that it wasn’t really worth it when they could simply fight back with existing UN rules.

The US have a tradition of not declaring war to act militarily, they’ve usually had plenty of sneaky ways around that. The element that might impede a US attack on Greenland would more likely be the perceived impact on Donnie’s administration both domestically and from the EU. They have be means to simply take over Nuuk and the other settlements, but I’m not so certain they have bottle to find themselves under permanent santions from the world’s largest trading block (the EU), or the domestic fallout at home from all the difficulties they’ll have to endure for the sake of a frozen arctic island inhabited by people who don’t want to be Americans.

firemansam4 · 30-03-2025 11:35AM

What is the status of any armed Danish forces in Greenland, do they have much or any stationed their at the moment?

I would imagine the US would not need to invade Greenland to annex it, they could simply just do what Russia did in Crimea and use their military to take control without any actual armed resistance.

I think it's highly unlikely to happen in any event, but I would imagine there would not be any invasion in the traditional sense.

Rawr · 30-03-2025 12:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123311155#Comment_123311155

Danish Military are present on Greenland. Their main activity is patrolling the North and East frontiers of Greenland to detect and/or dissuade Russian encroachment.

One such example is the «Sirius Patrol», a Danish Naval special forces regiment who trek out into the ice with dog sleds.

Strazdas · 30-03-2025 12:06PM

i saw someone say yesterday that Trump is economically illiterate, knows nothing about trade and has surrounded himself with sycophants who won't challenge him.

It's a recipe for disaster going forward - the Liz Truss scenario being played out again (but with his supporters thinking he is a genius and visionary who is going to transform everything for the better).

zell12 · 30-03-2025 12:20PM

Happy 2nd April y'all!

rossie1977 · 30-03-2025 12:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123310594#Comment_123310594

Trump is not leaving in 4 years. No chance is he going to allow himself be open to possible prosecution again outside the WH.

Every move by big tech and major players in recent months is not that which you associate with a regime that's supposedly a lame duck or the reaction from abroad who could easily ride out 3-4 year cycle, if they believed it was only that long...

US big tech have played a major role in keeping authoritarian regimes in place in places like China. Russia and Middle East the past 2 decades. Its very obvious they are will do same for Trump.

Cluedo Monopoly · 30-03-2025 12:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123311241#Comment_123311241

Nope…conspiracy theory stuff.

When they successfully change the constitution, come back to me.

PokeHerKing · 30-03-2025 12:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123311241#Comment_123311241

Similar talk January 6th and we know how that worked out. I'm not sure any of us will want to live in a world where the US becomes a dictatorship.

I'm not saying it couldn't happen but it's gotta be in the less than 1% probability.

rossie1977 · 30-03-2025 01:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123311269#Comment_123311269

Its not conspiracy. Republicans have wanted total control since Nixon was ousted. Every Dem challenger since then has been destroyed publicly to a point the public view each as the "worst ever".

They now have total control and purged government of any dissidents (or they will once Musk is finished "cutting costs"). Who exactly is going to stop Trump when they control the House, Senate, Supreme Court and Trump has been given King Henry 8th like status. Main stream media and big tech have all fallen in line and kissed the ring.

If you think the Constitution will save you, you haven't learned much from history. I mean birthright citizenship is enshrined in US Constitution and how is that working out..

rossie1977 · 30-03-2025 01:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123311271#Comment_123311271

January 6th succeeds if Vance is VP not Pence. Pence saved democracy that day.

eightieschewbaccy · 30-03-2025 01:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123311269#Comment_123311269

Given the amount of things that have happened since the start of Trump's first presidency that would have sounded like conspiracy theories, I'm absolutely not ruling out the fall of a democracy at this stage.

In other news, not exactly surprising. The Trump administration are now looking at banning Jackie Robinson's biography from the Naval Academy library. Obviously not huge on its own but it's very much so the kind of steps from a totalitarian state.

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/article/trump-administration-reportedly-moves-to-ban-jackie-robinson-biography-from-naval-academy-library-235013259.html

amandstu · 30-03-2025 01:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123311328#Comment_123311328

Bought it breathing space ,which was spurned.

We have to wait for the Trump voters to smell the sewage in their coffee and then the tide may turn .

Don't they say that the Americans hate a loser?

aloyisious · 30-03-2025 01:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123311110#Comment_123311110

As in orders will be complied with as legal and complained about through channels afterwards. However, the family of serving personnel do, as civilians, have rights and routes [courts and congress] of complaint beyond those of their serving kin to raise hell.

Oscar_Madison · 30-03-2025 01:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123311322#Comment_123311322

While I won’t go so far as to say “it will happen”- there hasn’t been a more significant time where a lot of factors are in play to make it happen -it may not be as you describe, but when it comes to elections, the republicans can place a lot of stumbling blocks on voters, that traditionally impact minorities who traditionally vote Democrat.
While we’ll wait and see, MAGA could take over America in a number of ways - constitution challenges, implementing emergency powers under the guise of some 3rd world war threat - in other words, bullsh1t - but it won’t stop them trying and if they have the Supreme Court on their side, you never know what might happen

Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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