Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

political analyst · 27-03-2025 09:14PM

As far as I know, legislation needs a two-thirds majority in the US Senate to override the presidential veto. However, the fact that Trump is President means that the veto issue doesn't arise in cases where Republicans want to change the law.

So, regardless of how much filibustering the Democrats do in the Senate, the legislation that the Republicans want to have passed would be passed, wouldn't it?

everlast75 · 27-03-2025 09:16PM

Reports that Judge Boasberg has ordered the Trump admin to preserve the contents of the Signal chat used to discuss military strikes in Yemen.

Any messages sent or received between March 11 and 15 have to be retained 🔥

Tell me how · 27-03-2025 09:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123304780#Comment_123304780

They're up to such shenanigans I wouldn't put it past them to try something like have a 50yr moratorium before stakeholders is granted during which time they'd look to shift the needle.

Absolutely disposable hateful philosophies at the head of the GOP the last ten yrs or so, since Sarah Palin started pushing the Tea Party version. Hateful short sighted bigotry.

aloyisious · 27-03-2025 09:50PM

I'm waiting to see if the Chief Justice sends a reminder to K Leavitt on the boundaries of courtesy and legal niceties between the Presidency and the courts so she sees it'd be sensible to rein in her tongue or face the consequences of meddling with the courts, seeing as the Chief Justice sent a polite message to her chief on the same issue. Leavitt is not the US head of state and does not merit the same level of deference and politeness that Trump does, though she might imagine his mantle covers her as well.

A Dub in Glasgo · 27-03-2025 10:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123304987#Comment_123304987

They will just ignore that and there will be no consequences… checks and balances you see

Manic Moran · 27-03-2025 10:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123304481#Comment_123304481

It’s a frame of reference you might understand. Puerto Rican politics is primarily configured around the island status. And unfortunately, the Puerto Ricans themselves as demonstrated by their own voting patterns don’t fit into the simple division you want to put them in.

First things first, I checked in with my resident boricua (AKA the wife). Sure enough, there was an ulterior motive in that referendum, though I guessed wrong. Governor Pierluisi wanted to encourage his party voters (PNP-The pro Satehood party) to show up at the polls in the next election whilst not encouraging the next biggest party’s (PDP, no to statehood) folks to show up. (The third party is PIP, pro-independence, they are far smaller than the other two). To do so, he put a referendum to the voters which had his party’s position as an option, but did not have the opposition party’s position as an option.

It worked, kindof. His successor, Governor Gonzalez-Colon, also of the PNP won. But she considers herself aligned with the Republican Party, and when she was the Resident Commissioner in Congress until last year, she caucused with the Republicans.

However, her successor in DC, elected at the same time as the overwhelming “vote for Statehood” referendum, is a member of the PDP. And as a good “we don’t want statehood” party representative, Mr Rivera has decided to sit with… the Democrats. Gonzalez-Colon’s two predecessors in Congress were both PNP, but they went one each sitting with Democrats and Republicans. PR is a “swing state” in US terms.

Have a bounce around PR51st.com, a statehood advocacy group. The links seem to mess with Boards, but look for articles like “Are Puerto Ricans Democrats?” (Harris and Trump polled within a percent of each other. And the latter is obviously after the disaster of Trump visiting the place after the hurricane). Or “Republican party/Democratic Party Platform on Puerto Rico”

briany · 27-03-2025 10:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123304984#Comment_123304984

Yeah, and this is the crux of the matter. Trump could get his various policies enacted as law, but he's not. He sees fit to do it all through executive order and the Republican-controlled Congress is happy to go along with that. This should be defcon 5 for every opponent of Trump. It is the executive branch, controlled by Trump, emerging as supreme in real time.

Trump just has to get his knee on the neck of the courts and that's it. Game over, barring a public revolt.

scrotist · 27-03-2025 11:33PM

85% chance this is a stupid question, but why does everybody hate trump for these tarrifs?

He said they're reciprocal, so if Ireland slaps a x% tarrif on American goods, America will do the same with Irish goods.

Maybe I have totally missed something, but isn't that fair?

Aurelian · 27-03-2025 11:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123305335#Comment_123305335

Trump started hiking up the tariffs, so, it's not reciprocal on his part, he's the instigator.

Ireland doesn't apply tariffs, the EU does as a whole.

political analyst · 27-03-2025 11:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123305279#Comment_123305279

Trump is unable to "do a Derek Chauvin" on the courts. That is clear because of the rebuke from the Chief Justice after Trump called for the impeachment of a judge. This is from last week.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/roberts-rebuke-trump-shows-seriousness-concern-white-house/story?id=119921304

golfball37 · 27-03-2025 11:51PM

Trump contends there is a tariff in place already that favours the eu and his tariff is just cancelling this out.

political analyst · 27-03-2025 11:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123305003#Comment_123305003

This quote from an article written by Ian O'Doherty in the Indo (14 February 2024) turned out to be prescient, given Trump's overwhelming victory last November and also explains his 2016 victory (and I think that his 2020 defeat was a fluke that was caused by the pandemic).

"Many traditional Democrat voters have grown increasingly resentful of their party's apparent obsession with social justice matters such as transgender rights, the Black Lives Matter movement and, bizarrely, their repeated and entirely unworkable calls for reparations for slavery. Most middle Americans care not a jot for these fringe issues - they are more interested in how much money they have in their pay packet at the end of the month."

Loafing Oaf · 27-03-2025 11:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123305368#Comment_123305368

This quote from an article written by Ian O'Doherty in the Indo (14 February 2024) turned out to be prescient

Nope

https://www.yahoo.com/news/john-oliver-slams-democrats-think-114037409.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALJ_2uitAbazG45WZ4FWxb-hC3x6-9DlBhXiwBe-tCROJ5TxcZ8djkb5tuVQ004M2wVgyANR_BlKdQcXxMF_Mj3CUftdXHSQw7Kvrr-mN8NOWhh12Zpw2xi4fY7r7ekCyjnOomos2Ikd2ahEbA-hSZjsHQtz5LsT74TvaWWIp0LE

Maxface · 28-03-2025 12:18AM

The Eu, UK, Canada, Mexico, Japan, Australia and others (maybe even some Chinese relief) should operate a temporary free trade agreement. Something that covers the products that Trump is tariffing. This should not only provide temporary relief to businesses and consumers, it should also frighten the shite out of USA stock markets. Trump is acting like the USA is the King of the World (not half wrong) but, if other countries are happy to trade away from the USA, inviting manufacturing back is the least of their worries.

10000maniacs · 28-03-2025 12:24AM

If Trump slaps 25% tarriffs on pharmaceuticals manufactured in Ireland, why don't Ireland cash in their €340 billion US bonds they hold and buy Euro bonds instead? I know it won't help Ireland but at least it would give Trump a big headache he has to deal with. €340 billion is a big hole to fill even in the USA.

Why doesn't Germany, France, UK, Canada and Mexico cash in their US bonds too. Its an easy way to give Trump a black eye and make him think about what he is doing.

It's obvious in 2025 that the USA is of no benefit whatsoever to the rest of the Western world. So just pull the plug on them.

AlmightyCushion · 28-03-2025 12:34AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123305408#Comment_123305408

The state doesn't own those bonds. They would be owned by financial institutions.

10000maniacs · 28-03-2025 12:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123305413#Comment_123305413

Yes but the Irish financial institutions have a vested interest in the Irish economy being healthy. Nothing stopping them from investing in Euro bonds instead. I would say the dollar is a worse bet than the Euro in 2025. Anyway I'd rather Ireland's financial institutions propped up the Euro than the dollar. Trump is trying to kill the Irish economy so why not?

Tell me how · 28-03-2025 12:51AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123305368#Comment_123305368

"Many traditional Democrat voters have grown increasingly resentful of their party's apparent obsession with social justice matters such as transgender rights, the Black Lives Matter movement and, bizarrely, their repeated and entirely unworkable calls for reparations for slavery. Most middle Americans care not a jot for these fringe issues - they are more interested in how much money they have in their pay packet at the end of the month."

I don't actually buy that. I heard way more conservatives (like O'Doherty) talking about social justice matters than I did Democrats. It was all 'Democrats are focused on this, Democrats are focused on that" being claimed by Republicans and their mouthpieces. Sure, BLM garnered a lot of attention, but it was a real topic that started on the streets in a real way rather than being contrived by Democrats. And core factors related to the discussion did and do massively impact people in negative ways.

Like even on here, we had an inuit chaser conservative who posted time and time and time again about transgender topics to a level that was way out of whack with public discourse, all the time claiming it was what The Left cared about. But they were the one bringing it in to every conversation.

Look at all the bills conservatives have brought in at the state and national level around such topics, way more than what Democrats have. Bills to prevent Trans people using bathrooms of their choice, bills to force people to only refer to two genders, all driven by Republicans.

briany · 28-03-2025 12:56AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123305357#Comment_123305357

Yeah, I saw Roberts' comments but two things...

One, it's early days in Trump's presidency. Given he's a man who saw no particular problem with trying to overturn the 2020 election on bogus terms, I doubt there's any bottom to how low he and his team are willing to go in order to yoke the courts, should they prove themselves a problem to his agenda, and there are potentially 3 and a half years of that mentality to go.

Two, if Trump stacks enough of the civil service and the justice system with loyalists, who would there be to actually enforce court rulings which run contrary to his wishes?

Hodger · 28-03-2025 01:04AM

Message from Canada " the special relationship is over "

" we will need to pivot our trade relationships elsewhere "

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1905347765053309285

Could likely be the start of countries start to pivot their their trade relationships elsewhere.

For anyone who is a US trump supporter what exactly is he doing for you that is going to be of benefit for you and the country you live in over the course of the longer term?

Iecrawfc · 28-03-2025 01:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123305400#Comment_123305400

The way to hurt the Americans these days is to target the tech sector, they've established monopoly in Google, Apple, LinkedIn, Facebook, eBay, Amazon, netflix, Disney etc.. Their dominance there is what Europe/Australia/ Canada/Japan/South Korea (and China in certain areas) should target and produce alternatives, its easy reproduce the technology but needs backing. First step would be an European+ Twitter that cuts the knees from Musk's platform.

AbusesToilets · 28-03-2025 01:30AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123305438#Comment_123305438

its more there dominance in the fundamental architecture of the internet. Cloud computing is all American companies. It would be very challenging to develop systems independent alternatives.

Capt'n Midnight · 28-03-2025 01:47AM

Trump may have an actual win, or rather the billionaires might not pay more tax. Abroad, So nothing for Joe Public back in the US of A.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/26/india_drops_digital_ads_tax/ it was a 6% tax on revenue from digital ads by non-resident companies. INR 3,343 Cr ($390 million) ie. about 8 hours of Google ad revenue. But India was phasing out those taxes anyway in favour of OECD agreed ones.

Tony EH · 28-03-2025 02:41AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123305433#Comment_123305433

For anyone who is a US trump supporter what exactly is he doing for you that is going to be of benefit for you and the country you live in over the course of the longer term?

Hey man, it's something, something…transgender…or whatever.

eire4 · 28-03-2025 03:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123305268#Comment_123305268

No its your usual whatabout/distraction this time involving Ireland which has zero to do with the fact that the vote last November in Puerto Rico was 57% for statehood 31% for independence and 12% for free association. As is also it a fact that all but 16 Republicans voted against the bill for Puerto Rican statehood in 2022 but you carry on pushing posts that with remarkable consistency align with the authoritarian Republicans.

McFly85 · 28-03-2025 07:28AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123305335#Comment_123305335

It’s just a total misuse of what a tariff is effective for.

The EU has recently put tariffs on Chinese EVs - not for any vindictive reason, but to protect local industry. Without it the market would flood with cheaper options and would upend the market, harming industry and costing jobs within the EU. The tariffs are there to allow the manufacturer access to the market without the ability to undercut everyone else.

Similarly with Canada and their dairy industry - they want to protect their local dairy producers so they cap how much other countries can sell into Canada. Without them large American producers could flood the market and destroy Canadian dairy producers, costing jobs and income tax.

Tariffs aren’t generally desirable, but are considered necessary to protect an economy in a global market. What Trump is doing is actually the opposite of that - he’s disrupting his own economy by treating or implementing tariffs unilaterally, where Americans have either seen prices jump overnight or companies lose business though uncertainty. And the idea of reciprocal tariffs is a nonsense one, as Americans have been buying a lot of these things because they don’t produce enough locally, or produce it at all.

So basically he’s trying to bully other countries by harming his own.

twinytwo · 28-03-2025 08:07AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123305559#Comment_123305559

What's even funnier is that he thinks he should tariff whoever he wants, but dont anyone dare tariff the US back.🤣

jj880 · 28-03-2025 08:15AM

Are Trump's incoming alcohol tariffs a danger to places like Muff Liquor? It's not long opened in Muff, Co. Donegal and its biggest customer by far is the US. Recently they got a deal for 30,000 bottles to be sold there. I know some people who work for them.

They are genuinely worried about this lunacy from Trump.