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Clarkson's Farm Werewolf - Where everyone does Diddly Squat

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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Phil WW


    Why does Isla need to bring up Wolf Mary 4 1/2 hours before lynch when at that time Mary had one vote? It was the first lynch! The next vote on Mary comes nearly 2 hours later

    3.12pm FIONA voting Vernon (1 vote)

    3.29pm Franks vote will be Mary or Isla as things stand. 

    3.51pm Clodagh won’t be voting Vernon

    4.18pm PATRICK voting Mary (1)

    4.21pm Lucy believes Vernon is village 

    4.22pm Conor has Isla no1 and Katie no2. Won’t vote Vernon tonight

    4.29pm Mary after being asked by Frank says she would vote Oisin if it were between Oisin and Isla

    4.39pm Gabriel says Vernon should definitely be policy lynched

    4.53pm Mary says she’ll be voting in an hour 

    5.03pm Isla says she’s looking at Mary or Gabriel

    Make it make sense



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    I truly don't understand what point you are making re Isla. You're claiming to pick Mary voters but apparently Isla isn't suspect as a Mary voter but I am. Also the statement regarding me saying Vernon should be policy lynched or one that fiollowed (I'm on mobile and cannot search) also stated that Mary was suspect for pushing at Fiona post reveal. Why leave that out of a dissection of the Mary voters?

    Isla never actually declared voting for Mary on thread and had me before Mary on the FFA. Who knows, the wagon on me might have won if Fiona didn't move and Isla had voted correctly. No wolf would have been revealed.



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Fiona WW


    On the other hand, Mary says she's between Oisin and Isla but ends up voting Katie without any declaration on thread.



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Phil WW


    At that stage the declared votes showed Mary was a gonner so she was giving us a bluff/double bluff vote.

    VOTING CLOSED. 

    Declared votes - Mary 5, Katie 2, Gabriel 1, Isla 1, Orla 1, Vernon 1, Oisin 1


    @gabriel I’ve stuck to voting intentions and not bigger suspicious or FFA lists



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Fiona WW


    At 4.29pm? No she wasn't even by your timeline she only had one vote from Patrick



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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    A soft bus, Isla mentions a teammate so she can point it out? The 2 of them were already mentioned.

    3.29pm Franks vote will be Mary or Isla as things stand.

    So create some distance. Then:

    4.18pm PATRICK voting Mary (1)

    4.22pm Conor has Isla no1 and Katie no2. Won’t vote Vernon tonight

    4.29pm Mary after being asked by Frank says she would vote Oisin if it were between Oisin and Isla

    Although Isla did say this, she never shared her thoughts on these.

    5.03pm Isla says she’s looking at Mary or Gabriel

    It did become obvious that Mary was in trouble. So if a fellow wolf is in trouble jump on the wagon for cred.

    I'll also point out I declared late on Mary and then voted, but it was blocked. Isla didn't declare her vote on thread. My vote was blocked, Isla used the wrong name.

    The biggest niggle I have about Isla is how quickly she found Trigger's post saying Lucy had lost her vote and said it was her yeet vote, rather than the one to nominate someone for a prize. She had trouble with the page jumping, was asking questions that had already been answered etc, but was able to find that no bother.



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Looking at the Mary voters, and if we believe Isla and Holly, there is a wolf there, has to be

    Of the five unknowns we must have at least 2 wolves. I'm the only one in that five who didn't vote Mary!

    • Mary: Frank, Gabriel, Isla, Holly
    • Brendan: me

    So whilst targeting Mary voters may not have been optimal earlier in the game, shielding Mary voters now is 100% incorrect



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Fiona WW


    Both Frank AND Holly mention Mary in quick succession here

    Do wolves do that?? I mean, one might but two? It would be some hellbussing going on



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Phil WW


    Where could wolves move to to save Mary without becoming suspicious? As a group we need to work this out.

    I can post the full list again if the village wants.



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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    They might have just accepted she was gone and spread their votes.



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Fiona WW


    The only other viable wagons were Gabriel and Katie. Mary voted Katie. The Gabriel wagon has three dead villagers on board

    Katie is a villager. We don't know Gabriel's alignment



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Fiona WW


    Did we have two wolves up on Monday…? Gabs has never had any pressure since as they were on Mary…

    Hmmmmmm



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    I would point out that I was third declared vote for Mary AND I posted my arguments for why I felt Mary suspect for pushing on someone post soft reveal of Fiona, so may have influenced others to join. It was a few hours before lynch so Mary going was not a certainty when I said that.

    If you feel I'm a wolf vote for me but I will flip village.



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Your hellbussing comment triggered a memory in me…

    …Sunday morning, 1122, is this early trolling, @Holly WW?! It suddenly feels like it!



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    An early bus is wolves listed each other on their first or second FFAs as cover.

    If Isla is a wolf both her and Mary mentioned the other.



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    The Last of Us game was a perfect example.



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    That's not my definition of a bus, I'd say it's actually voting (and killing) for a fellow wolf



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Phil WW


    and as Nigel said, the only unknowns not to vote on Mary is himself

    Phil wasn't in the game yet and Brendan voted for ???

    A 3 wolf game with a pure Mary wagon makes Nigel a wolf and Brendan or myself the alpha. I’m NOT the alpha!

    Gabriel pushed early door NOT to be looking in the Mary voters!



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Holly WW




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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Yeah, my question is whether your second post in the game, "An early bus is a possibility...", was trolling. Were you saying it for a laugh, knowing? Because there's several players (myself included) who love doing stuff like that



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Phil WW


    3 wolf start or 4 wolf start - what do we think?



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Not trolling or having a laugh, I was just pointing out that it was a possibility.

    Surely you'd agree with my theory if you're suggesting I'm a wolf who voted for Mary?



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    I think 4 given the numbers and Fiona's role. Initially I thought 4-5 but as we haven’t been put out of our misery I'll go with 4.



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Phil WW


    For my own piece of mind I’m going to go back over Liam’s posts. I’ll check the first words of each post he made once N1 started just incase he left more cryptic clue.

    Sorry Brendan, I want to believe that the good peek is pure. I just want to double check that it was you they actually peeked.



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    I agree now that there was a bus on Mary, yes. In fact, my #FFA is now Isla, you, Gabriel.

    But no, I don't think I'd have given it any thought on the opening day

    ...unless I'd been discussing it with the other passengers on the bus

    Hypothesis: Sat night/Sun morning, in the wolfy backroom, Mary says "I'm really sorry guys, I shouldn't have signed up, I don't think I'll have time for this" and a plan is hatched to kill her early with everyone voting there for cover. You decide to have a cheeky joke about it on thread for fun. She then plays badly but not too badly on Monday, making sure to attract other voters (I'd say Vernon messed up the plan for a while). Then one of you (hi Gabs) spend the entire game trying to divert away from the Mary voters.

    I mean, even you have to admit that sounds ridiculously plausible, right?



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    I mean if I were a wolf and people decided to just look at Mary voters I'd be fairly secure in being one of the least likely Mary voters, so why push against it.

    I went against it as I think was a less smart strategy than assessing the actual behaviour on thread that caused Fiona to reveal as Jeremy. I've also pushed on people to ignore you and Brendan at the moment to improve the statisticsl probability of a wolf, despite that narrowing the focus on me to roughly the same extent as picking off Mary voters would.

    I also strongly advocated for better peek strategy.

    If you think these are the actions of a wolf knock yourself and vote for me and so can anyone else who wants. But you'll be wrong.



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Of course it's plausible, but that doesn't make it true.

    Here's plausible theory - Katie said there was a wolf between you and I. I know I'm not a wolf so you're now scrambling to start a wagon on me.

    To quote you:

    I mean, even you have to admit that sounds ridiculously plausible, right?



  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Fiona WW


    Mary pushing more on Oisin here and using Clodagh for a reason to drop Isla. Also some waffle about Frank and a push back against him… Yeah unless this is good wolf theatre I think Frank is clean but I'm going to keep going



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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Why would I scramble? There's no heat on me?



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